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I had all the feelings.

I wish there'd been a few more specifics about the exotic technologies. The first chapter was quite good, but I wish there'd been more specifics about what attitudes trigger what effects, and what various weapons did (and why they're more powerful than machine guns and nukes).

The same for society as a whole. We learn about the sacrifices mostly second hand, which is probably realistic as people think about them, but leaves it a bit abstract.

I loved the main two characters' relationship.

I think there's a lot of culture/gender stuff which went over my head.

I don't think I completely understood the history with Kujen and Jedao. Kujen designed this whole system to include certain necessary tech (mothdrives) and included or discovered a so-so method of immortality via the black cradle. Is that right?

But now he wants to overthrow it and set up a system that doesn't have five other hexarchs to threaten him. But he outmanouvers all the other hexarchs to maintain the status quo anyway, why is it so hard for him to elevate some hexarchs he'd have a control over (eg. by offering them clues to immortality) that he wants to work with Jedao instead?

Why does Jedao trust Kujen even an inch?

How does the whole "I'll pretend to be dangerously crazy in order to become immortal" work? It seems like a super fragile plan. What if they just execute him in anger? Or because they don't want a better strategist around? Or just imprison him and don't immortalise him. Is "over centuries, but one campaign heavily watched at a time" really a more efficient way of effecting societal change than "as a respected and lauded general"?

My usual rule of thumb is that someone who murders thousands of people in service of a nebulous unworkable plan that doesn't really go anywhere is a bad guy, even if (a) they're personally nice and (b) their ultimate aim is laudable.

Like, is the plan supposed to seem more workable than that? Or is he supposed to seem like that was just straight-up evil? Or are we supposed to feel sympathetic to him. I feel like I missed something big, but not sure what.

Date: 2017-04-25 01:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kaberett
Oh we are definitely supposed to think Jedao is a mass-murdering villain.

Also:


... and I can probably dump more of Yoon's writing tag at you if you like, but there is a LOT more excellent detail over at his DW. (I... will also try to engage more with the ACTUAL QUESTIONS but this is the bit I can do quickly.)

Date: 2017-04-25 02:41 pm (UTC)
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I am reading it now, so I'll come back to this post when I've finished...

Date: 2017-04-30 07:51 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sfred
I thought the sympathy for Jedao was in there to clarify how he'd become awful but not to excuse it.
In general, most of the book seemed more about atmosphere than explanation of whys and hows for me, and that felt OK to me.