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  <title>Sorting-hat Vorkosigan Saga characters</title>
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  <description>Recently Liv linked to a discussion about hat-sorting[1] Vorkosigan Saga characters. I was really interested, although also interested to see I often disagreed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;The houses&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First, some clarifications on how I see the houses as Rowling seemed to intend them or how they make the most sense, rather than as they come across in the books.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gryffindor is the &quot;good&quot; house, but if you eschew a moral judgement, you can say they&apos;re defined by bravery/impulsiveness and loyalty/dogmatism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Slytherin is the &quot;evil&quot; house, but if you eschew moral judgement, you could say they&apos;re the house of ambition and forming social alliances. I think &quot;in-group-ness&quot; can be very slytherin, but I don&apos;t think it has to be racial-based even though that was the primary division represented at the time Harry Potter was at school.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ravenclaw is easy: good or bad, they&apos;re motivated by understanding.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hufflepuff is often seen as the &quot;other&quot; house, but that&apos;s unfair, they seem defined by reliability (seen positively as loyalty or trustworthyness or negatively as ploddingness) and nurturingness. You can have bad-ass hufflepuffs, see below :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[1] what&apos;s the appropriate verb here?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Miles Vorkosigan&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Someone said that Miles was Gryffindor and Naismith was Slytherin. I think that&apos;s backwards: Naismith is the most charge-in-and-damn-the-consequences part of Miles, if anything, even more devoted to &quot;do the right thing at all costs&quot; than Miles is. Hence Gryffindor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whereas Miles is good, but he&apos;s &lt;i&gt;ambitious&lt;/i&gt; good. He doesn&apos;t just want to do something good, he wants to change the world for good. He talks everyone into his way of doing things, and makes friends with everyone[2]. Ambition, networking, and silver-tongue, that is so Slytherin in a good way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[2] I thought Slughorn was a missed opportunity, because he tries to make friends, but is way too slimy. I think it still counts as Slytherin if you make lots of friends and genuinely like them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cut-wrapper&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;span-cuttag___1&quot; class=&quot;cuttag&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b class=&quot;cut-open&quot;&gt;(&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b class=&quot;cut-text&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://jack.dreamwidth.org/801589.html#cutid1&quot;&gt;Read more...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b class=&quot;cut-close&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;display: none;&quot; id=&quot;div-cuttag___1&quot; aria-live=&quot;assertive&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;https://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=jack&amp;ditemid=801589&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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