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1. If I get annoyed by wearing something round my wrist, but would like a watch, are there any suggestions? Be retro and get a fob watch? At least I can do "spectacles testacles[1] wallet and watch[2]" crossing-myself[3]s then.

2. I seem to recall a website which did a reverse lookup on arbitrary numbers. So, would take a decimal[4], and say "pi^2" or "foo's constant" or "simple integral of expression". Did I imagine this? I can't find it.

3. How should I have titled this? Something about clock arithmetic[5]?

[1] Nuns on the Run is a good contender for "Film that should have been really awful, but was actually very funny." Though I think the ultimate winner was Pirates of the Caribean (potentially vulnerable to Pirates II).

[2] For the record, it's left then right, though the eastern orthodox do it the other way, and I can't believe any God most people worship would mind so long as it's sincere.

[3] Is there a word that means that? That looks clumsy?

[4] That is, a number typically specified to a largish but finite degree of precision. Not necessarily in base 10. Though it would be.

[5] I assumed everyone had heard of it, but teaching modular arithmatic made me realise apparently not. Clock arithmetic is like "11+2=1" and "12=0".

Date: 2005-12-13 02:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com

I often use my cellphone as a watch. Wall clocks and computers of course will tell you the time. And you can practice getting good at reading watches off other people's wrists without them noticing.


[3] autocrucifixion? Maybe not.


Date: 2005-12-13 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stephdairy.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] addedentry has a little LCD clock device which clips onto the cuff of his shirt.

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Date: 2005-12-13 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
Ah! That *does* sound cool.

Date: 2005-12-13 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
Sorry, I should have said. I'm currently watchless, but have a phone, and am normally at a computer, so I do manage, but sometimes something else would be convenient.

Often it's pleasent to be without a watch, it feels freeing to not worry about time. But normally I do need to be somewhere else. I may have the self-control to divest myself when I need to.

[3] LOL.

Date: 2005-12-13 02:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] simont
I wear a digital watch, on a custom strap which I made out of rucksack strapping, ribbon and velcro. It fastens around my belt, so that my watch is essentially an integral part of my trousers (which makes it a lot harder to lose than it used to be, as an added bonus!).

I made the strap in 1998 (it was the first thing I'd ever sewn, so I'm quite pleased that it's survived seven years and is still going strong) and haven't had occasion to regret it since. Not wearing my watch on my wrist means I don't have to take it off to wash up and suchlike, and the absence of pressure round my wrist seems to have helped my RSI too.

I'm not offering to make more straps like it (although I may have to replace my own one of these days), but if this idea sounds interesting to you then I'll be happy to show you the thing in more detail and discuss tips for making one.

Date: 2005-12-13 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
Ooh, that sounds fun too. How come I've never noticed this? I might even be able to make a beta version and see if I like it before trying to sew one properly :)

Date: 2005-12-13 02:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mair_in_grenderich
friend of mine wears his watch around his ankle and says it's a good place for it.

I used to have one that dangled around my neck, on a sort of plastic string - tendency to catch in things meant the flimsy chain things were a bad idea.

2. I think google would do the first two ...

Date: 2005-12-13 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-next.livejournal.com
Have you seen my little watch? I can't wear a wristwatch because of my splints, so I wear a nurse's watch which pins onto the waistband of my trousers.

Date: 2005-12-13 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
I don't remember. Yes, I was thinking something like that.

Date: 2005-12-13 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
Eh? Does he spend the day crosslegged or what?

2. It doesn't seem to. That is, it knows pi^2 is 9.8696044, but not that 9.8696044 is pi^2 afaict.

Date: 2005-12-13 03:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mair_in_grenderich
nooo. maybe it has a clear face.

oh, I see. but surely an arbitrary number could be many things?

Date: 2005-12-13 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
Hmm? What? Wouldn't it always be covered by trouser, too far away to see, and at the wrong angle?

Yes, it could, which is one thing that made me think I may have imagined it. But regardless of what you can prove, most of the time, if someone has such a number, they will want the answer from the most used equation or whatever.

Date: 2005-12-13 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
http://www.firebox.com/index.html?dir=firebox&action=product&pid=1061

Thank you!

is the badger.

ROFL.

Date: 2005-12-13 08:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mair_in_grenderich
covered by trouser he lifts up his trouser to look at his watch
too far away to see maybe it has a clear face
at the wrong angle doesn't seem to be

I guess, but how would you work that out? what if there are two good equations leading to the same number?

Date: 2005-12-14 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
Fair enough.

Well, as I say, maybe I did imagine this. Presumably you'd actually have to have a big database of common polynomials of common constants? I can't think of any way of narrowing things down.

Date: 2005-12-14 02:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] simont
Well, then there's no reason you couldn't print both. A search engine isn't required to return exactly one hit.

Date: 2005-12-14 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
I was more scared of getting infinitely many answers with no good ordering than two. I still can't work out how much that would happen.

Intuitively, almost anyone dealing with 1.41421 will mean sqrt(2), or at worst two different interesting numbers will be coincidently close, but it doesn't feel right.

Date: 2005-12-14 03:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mair_in_grenderich
yeah, but what if I input something like 4 ?

Date: 2005-12-14 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
There are already plenty of sites that do what's famous about this integer, you could easily incorporate one of those. Though from this PoV, 4 is probably as explained as it's going to be.

The bit that may or may not exist it decimal numbers.