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I've really only drank two sorts of apple juice. Juice that comes in cartons like typical orange juice and might be described as standard. And Coton Orchard (Cox's?) apple juice as supplied from Trinity College, which is really wonderful. The question is, does anyone regularly drink nice apple juice and if so which? I am completely ignorant of whether Coton Apple Juice is typical for nice apple juice, or particularly good.

Of course, I still have fond memories of it from Trinity, and like living within five miles of an orchard, so would like to visit out there one day when I'm cycling anyway.

Date: 2008-01-28 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robhu.livejournal.com
I think the main two types from cartons is "made with concentrate" and "pressed". "Pressed" is far better.

Is there a type of fruit juice you can name by type that you don't drink? I know your post implies "everything else", but it seems more likely to me that you've tried other juice in particular and decided you don't like it.

Date: 2008-01-28 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
Right, but my limited experience of orange juice suggests there's concentrate, which is ok, and non-concentrate, which is nice, and occasionally "Wow, I didn't know sunlight could be made liquid like that[1]". Although I may be misled, and the difference between "nice" and "wow" is mainly just how I feel at the time.

And I assume something similar applies to apple juice, but again don't know if the third tier exists, or that Coton was nice mainly because it was real rather than non-reconstituted (although I think I've a few times had apple juice out of posh bottles that's merely been nice, but I'm not sure).

[1] This metaphor is surprisingly literal, given that the orange juice actually is made out of sunlight in some sense :)

Is there a type of fruit juice you can name by type that you don't drink?

*me fails* Sorry, I don't quite understand that? Are you reading the first sentence as if I only drink apple juice? I typically drink orange juice when I want juice, and occasionally other things, but of apple juice that I drink, I have noticed, etc, etc.

Date: 2008-01-28 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robhu.livejournal.com
I think there are different types of from concentrate. Some of the cheaper stuff they put sugar and stuff in. I'm not sure about that though, I'm no expert on this.

Sorry, I don't quite understand that? Are you reading the first sentence as if I only drink apple juice?
Errr.... Sorry, I'm trying to discover if there is anything that commonly identifies any fruit juice (apple / orange / whatever) that you've tried but didn't like. Sort of attacking the problem from the other direction.

Date: 2008-01-28 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robhu.livejournal.com
BTW - Apple and Elderflower is nice.

Date: 2008-01-28 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
I'm trying to discover if there is anything that commonly identifies any fruit juice (apple / orange / whatever) that you've tried but didn't like.

Oh, I see. Not particularly, nothing that's stuck in my mind. I'm not particularly fond of most other juices I commonly see, but like them occasionally.

Date: 2008-01-28 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mobbsy.livejournal.com
I quite often get apple juice from Watergull Orchards that's quite nice. It's available at least from the butcher on the market on Saturdays and Robinson's butcher in Histon.

Date: 2008-01-28 03:43 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-01-28 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
I think I didn't like the juice as much, but often have an elderflower something in pubs if I want something refreshing.

Date: 2008-01-28 03:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] pizza.maircrosoft.com (from livejournal.com)
there's cloudy/not-cloudy. the cloudy is meant to be posher?

Date: 2008-01-28 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunflowerinrain.livejournal.com
James White Bramley which comes in bottles.
If you like thick apple juice, Copella.

In Switz I love the arrangement for breakfast, which is a big bowl of oranges next to a big juice-machine, and do it yourself.

The Farm Café on the A12 near Wickham Market (north of Woodbridge) has a Zummo orange juice machine and a small hill of oranges. yummmmmmmm.

Date: 2008-01-28 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vyvyan.livejournal.com
Also available in the butcher's on Mill Road, just before the bridge. (It feels weird going into a butcher's, even though I'm not buying meat!)

Date: 2008-01-28 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robhu.livejournal.com
Yes, Copella is excellent.

Date: 2008-01-28 06:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rochvelleth.livejournal.com
I've only drank two sorts of apple juice: apple juice and cider :)

Date: 2008-01-28 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
Yes, I can imagine. There's no reason I *shouldn't* but I think I'd prefer on the market, a little.

Date: 2008-01-28 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/vitriol_/
Copella's my choice (though it's pretty pricey).

Date: 2008-01-28 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
:) *cuddle*

Of course, we got this far without having to specify a transatlantic translation. (IIRC something like "concentrated apple juice"=>"apple juice", "unconcentrated apple juice"=>cider, "cider"=>"hard cider")

Date: 2008-01-28 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rochvelleth.livejournal.com
:) *cuddle* Ooh, there's hard cider? Is it legal? :)

P.S. I find Copella much too sweet. There's a pressed apple juice they do in the Sidgwick site buttery that's lovely but I don't know what it's called. I'm quite partial to Sainsbury's concentratey stuff though. I like it a bit on the sour side. But mostly I drink other fruit juices - mainly grapefruit and blood orange.

Date: 2008-01-28 06:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
*cuddle*

ROFL. I think it's thought of a bit like strong cider is here, possibly more so: nice if you're a connoisseur, possibly some connotations of being somewhat rural, and of being somewhat deadly :)

I wonder if its the same as Trinity gets?

Date: 2008-01-28 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] d37373.livejournal.com
I find pressed > 'from concentrate', and really fresh > pasteurised > preverved. After that it's a matter of the apple variety, and for that each has their own prefered flavour, sweetness and sharpness.

If you have an easy supply of nice fruit, a big press costs £15-20 to hire for a day. Last summer we made about 10 gallons of perry and some damson wine :)

Date: 2008-01-29 02:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
That's the third mention, so I should try that when I can :)

Date: 2008-01-29 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
Ah, cool, that's fascinating. However, I don't think I have the oomph for make your own at all, at the moment it's just something I'd like at least sometimes .