jack

Yes. I do think everyone has their own idea of what they should do, and have to respect, and most especially understand that, but that doesn't mean I don't accept that (1) sometimes someone else's idea is so different you have to lock them up or make war on them and (2) we should try to *form* people's opinions into something (imho) decent. To a large extent society is designed to make people's selfish immediate goals (eg. not getting fined) coincide with everyone's longer term goals (eg. having a nice park).