Would like a word for
Feb. 17th, 2016 11:14 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
jackWould like a word for:
"I don't agree with the apparent thrust of your rant/argument/essay/opinion but I think a bit three quarters of the way through is new to me and relevant/insightnful/new"
Sometimes it's just, "I don't know if I'll ever agree, but I want to understand what you're saying", but sometimes it's, "I don't agree with this, but I feel like I'm learning something, I don't want to stop bashing it back and forth"
Would like a word for
"The stated aims of an ideal/community" vs "the typical representatives thereof"
It's not always obvious what the ideals/stated aims are, nor who constitutes the community for ideas without a formal membership procedure, but there's also a recurring pattern, where someone says "X-ist", and then someone says, "actually I prefer XX-ist, since X-ist tends to mean someone who believes Y", and then there's a euphemism type treadmill, where it's not clear what people are actually referring to when they say X-ist.
And it's not possible to fix in general, but it occurs to me, a common example is the difference between "I agree with the stated aims, but the community might be more build around horrible non-articulated ideas" and "I don't agree with the stated aims at all".
"I don't agree with the apparent thrust of your rant/argument/essay/opinion but I think a bit three quarters of the way through is new to me and relevant/insightnful/new"
Sometimes it's just, "I don't know if I'll ever agree, but I want to understand what you're saying", but sometimes it's, "I don't agree with this, but I feel like I'm learning something, I don't want to stop bashing it back and forth"
Would like a word for
"The stated aims of an ideal/community" vs "the typical representatives thereof"
It's not always obvious what the ideals/stated aims are, nor who constitutes the community for ideas without a formal membership procedure, but there's also a recurring pattern, where someone says "X-ist", and then someone says, "actually I prefer XX-ist, since X-ist tends to mean someone who believes Y", and then there's a euphemism type treadmill, where it's not clear what people are actually referring to when they say X-ist.
And it's not possible to fix in general, but it occurs to me, a common example is the difference between "I agree with the stated aims, but the community might be more build around horrible non-articulated ideas" and "I don't agree with the stated aims at all".