Doctor Who Doomsday

[jack]

Well, yeah. Not *amazing*, but quite a satisfying end to the series.

It was great fun to see the Daleks and Cybermen together. An innovation in Doctor Who which was bold, but worked and I approve of. It makes it clear that the Cybermen are just a bit futuristic, enough to kick our butts when there's lots of them, and by comparison the Daleks are *nightmares*.

OTOH, while I did enjoy some of the dialog, eg. the Daleks recoiling when Rose mentions the Doctor is there, it all seemed too emotional for beings supposed to be inhuman. "Better at dying" -- what does a Dalek have to gain from empty swagger?

It was good to see Pete again, and I'm pleased a few people did tell Tennant to shut up, even if it didn't come to much in the end.

The glasses: again, it didn't come to much, but I love the feeling of it all coming together when the doctor says "Go on, ask me" :)

Torchwood was a bit of an anticlimax. I'm quite glad that there wasn't another universe-arching conspiracy, because that would be stupid, but that's the impression all the other episodes gave.

On the other hand, it felt as if there'd been lots of buildup about the Genesis Device, which there hadn't. That would have had some mystery.

The ending was a little deus ex machina, turn on a lever and all the enemies go away, why was the doctor so worried in the first place then? But fairly sensible as these things go, ignoring the magnets[1].

I'm glad Rose survived. I wasn't very excited by it either way, but I was glad. The misleading voiceover was a bit gratuitous, but if it doesn't get to be a habit I'll enjoy it. On the other hand lots of people said Rose was going to die. Now I can't remember if they had some other erroneous reason for thinking so, or just listened to that bit of last week's ep?

[1] Aaaaah! I assumed the heavy weights were a *metaphor*! Couldn't they have found something more solid to hang from? And what's with "hell"? While the parallel universe thing is quite cool, I hope we won't have the next season doctor riding a trans-universe sphere, and at the end his companion is sent into a parallel-multiverse, ad infinitum.

Comments

[angelofthenorth.livejournal.com]

Does Hell=Satan Pit?

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

That was my first thought. It would suggest a pleasingly suprising amount of metaphysical continuity. But I don't think so: of the interdimensional void he said some people called it hell, and as far as I could tell that was made up then.

[angelofthenorth.livejournal.com]

But where did Satan go when kicked out of the pit - i.e. where does matter go from a black hole...

[ewx.livejournal.com]

The reference to the devil in one ep and hell in another seems a bit of a coincidence, doesn't it? (Assuming real physics Satan's borrowed body would be destroyed on the way into the black hole, but we know real physics doesn't apply, given that it was supposedly "impossible" to orbit this black hole.)

[angelofthenorth.livejournal.com]

Hell seems to have been a secondary motif in this series - in School Reunion SJS mentions it being hell after the dr went.

where does matter go from a black hole...

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

I read up about the real answer to this when I was interested in wormholes (for fiction); the answer seems to be "we don't know". I mean, in real science, if it goes anywhere, it'd go to some normal 4d spcaetime *somewhere*, but the void is at least a good an answer as anything else.

Re: where does matter go from a black hole...

[angelofthenorth.livejournal.com]

And there's still more to find out about the time war. Because I don't believe that the Genesis Ark was the only prison ship.

I'm half-hoping Rose is pregnant with the Dr's baby....

I'm half-hoping Rose is pregnant with the Dr's baby....

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

I don't know. In one way it would be cool. But (a) I thought they'd *barely* admitted their liking for each other. It'd probably turn out to be some magic 'impregnated by the tardis' which is lame. And (b) it'd be another whole secretly-the-son-of-the-king-and-must-save-the-world thing which is also done to death.

Re: I'm half-hoping Rose is pregnant with the Dr's baby....

[angelofthenorth.livejournal.com]

It would solve the 13th doctor problem though...

Re: I'm half-hoping Rose is pregnant with the Dr's baby....

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

Hmmm. That's not such a bad thought. Or they could do a Red Dwarf and make it the Doctor himself! :)

Though they don't necessarily *need* a timelord. If it's not going to be the doctor, perhaps a human (or, say, Captain Jack, squee) could learn to operate the Tardis semireliably :)