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This came up the other day and I realised I didn't know. Do birds tack into the wind as boats do? I assumed not because:

* I couldn't see why it would help. A boat tacks because a keel at an angle into the wind can grip the water and have the wind push it sideways, but into the wind. A bird doesn't. If the wind were completely steady the bird would be just like in still air but being translated. I think if a bird wants to go into the wind it's going to have to flap.
* That's not how I've seen birds. They wheel about, but generally when flocking, I assume to coordinate and to evade predators; they don't seem to zigzag.
* No-one ever said they do and I couldn't find any citation

But I thought I should check. Do you know?

Date: 2007-02-05 12:54 pm (UTC)
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Clearly there are at least some birds that don't need to tack -- witness hawks hovering, by flying directly into the wind. As far as I understand, birds' wings flex to different shapes in different parts of the stroke, anyway, so there's something much more active going on than a sailing-style approach.

I'm not sure what birds that soar do, though. Perhaps you should ask the nearest glider pilot (if there isn't an ornithologist to hand)?

Date: 2007-02-08 01:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gareth-rees.livejournal.com
Birds and gliders soar using updrafts, currents of upward-moving air such as thermals. Once you've gained height using an updraft then you use gravity to glide upwind in search of the next updraft. Wikipedia's article on gliding has a nice section on soaring.