M-, n- and other dashes
Mar. 16th, 2007 06:23 pmI was under the impression that there were uses for mid-height horizontal lines in text:
1. Hyphenating words or joining words together.
2. (Binary or unary) Minus sign.
3. Separating sentences, eg. "I was -- as you may know -- pedantic."
4. Indicating ranges, eg. "A temperature of 20-25 celcius"
5. Joining things that already have hyphens in.
6. Joining things not to modify one by the other, eg. "US-UK tensions"
7. Introducing quotes or attributions
I *thought* that 1 was a hyphen, 2 was a minus sign, 3 was an em-dash, 4,5 and 6 were en-dashes, and 7 was a specially long dash that was generally treated the same as an em-dash.
And I *though* that typographically you would ideally have a dash narrower than a letter called a hyphen used as a hyphen, a dash as wide as an 'n' used for an en-dash, a dash as wide as an 'm' used for an em-dash, and a dash of unknown width used as a minus sign. But that normally (if you don't have unicode or don't think it's an important distinction) you use a single dash to represent hyphen and minus (generally the one generated by a standard keyboard), and often as an 'n' dash as well, and often two together as an em-dash. (And that em-dashes may or may not have spaces round, and the others shouldn't.)
However, people in the pub who edit things said I was misled somewhere along the line. I've certainly only picked this up (Bill Walsh and wikipedia feature heavily). I know it's not important, but does anyone want to update me?
1. Hyphenating words or joining words together.
2. (Binary or unary) Minus sign.
3. Separating sentences, eg. "I was -- as you may know -- pedantic."
4. Indicating ranges, eg. "A temperature of 20-25 celcius"
5. Joining things that already have hyphens in.
6. Joining things not to modify one by the other, eg. "US-UK tensions"
7. Introducing quotes or attributions
I *thought* that 1 was a hyphen, 2 was a minus sign, 3 was an em-dash, 4,5 and 6 were en-dashes, and 7 was a specially long dash that was generally treated the same as an em-dash.
And I *though* that typographically you would ideally have a dash narrower than a letter called a hyphen used as a hyphen, a dash as wide as an 'n' used for an en-dash, a dash as wide as an 'm' used for an em-dash, and a dash of unknown width used as a minus sign. But that normally (if you don't have unicode or don't think it's an important distinction) you use a single dash to represent hyphen and minus (generally the one generated by a standard keyboard), and often as an 'n' dash as well, and often two together as an em-dash. (And that em-dashes may or may not have spaces round, and the others shouldn't.)
However, people in the pub who edit things said I was misled somewhere along the line. I've certainly only picked this up (Bill Walsh and wikipedia feature heavily). I know it's not important, but does anyone want to update me?
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Date: 2007-03-19 02:02 pm (UTC)LOL. Thank you.
British style is to use an en-dash and spaces
Do you know if that is the case? I had supposed that was just people in a hurry. But I wouldn't know.
A minus sign is not a dash
Sorry, I tried to avoid that terminology, but slipped up. I meant "a dash-shaped object" and included it because it's often used as a use of '-', not to imply it's linguistically a dash :)
Joining things which already have hyphens is just a losing proposition.
Oh, no, it's great fun! "The financial audit revealed for Off–balance-sheet activities" -- for fun and profit can be reworded by permuting the dashes to imply, eg. off-balance sheet-activities :)
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Date: 2007-03-29 02:16 pm (UTC)