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[jack]

(lupie, lizzip, aldabra There was an lash out against livejournals that list potentially objectionable interests, I hear including fiction, or victim support. See, reasons for decentralised socialising forums.)

Conveniently, I don't have any interests. I've won! Mwahaha! Wait, no, that makes me sound sad...

Comments

[miss-next.livejournal.com]

Why are fiction and victim support considered objectionable?

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

Go and trace the links, I haven't really, not expecting, as I said, to suffer :) I haven't followed it, but the idea is apparently:

An external campaign, Warriors For Innocence, took a self-appointed crusade to defeat paedophilia by ridding livejournal of paedophilic journals. Livejournal banned many users listing "paedophilia", "rape", etc, in their interests, including, livejournals of roleplaying villains (with large disclaimers), and communities for victims.

I could also see it impacting friends who are just shocking for the sake of shocking, but not otherwise evil. There was a word-of-mouth buzz suggesting anyone potentially vulnerable to back up their account and maybe temporarily delete it.

I don't know how it did/will turn out.

[mair_in_grenderich]

The links are all forbidden from here.

[mair_in_grenderich]

(two of them are 403, and one of them is "you are not authorized to view this protected entry". I am /still/ trying to work out what causes LJ to have two kinds of forbidden)

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

No idea.

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

Did you try google? http://community.livejournal.com/suggestions/530217.html?thread=5719849#t5719849 sounds like it makes sense, apparently it depends on their journal's style.

[mair_in_grenderich]

ah. fair enough

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

*hugs* Oh dear, I think I might have been sarcastic. I think I *meant* to be helpful, it just went wrong somewhere along the line...

[mair_in_grenderich]

I thought it was helpful; I've wondered for ages.

*runs away with the hugs*

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

Aw.

And the wonderful thing about hugs is, the more you give, the more you have :)

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

Also, chases *deedle-deedle-deedle-deedle*

[mair_in_grenderich]

what will you do if you catch me?

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

Apparently, at the end of the rainbow, there's a giantess. Aaaagh!

[mair_in_grenderich]

... sunbathing by the Great Blinsk Sea.

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

...leaning backwards slightly.

OK, GIANT FLURBLE! PUT DOWN THE HYDROELECTRIC POWERSTATIONS BY THE GREAT BLINSK SEA, AND PUT YOUR HANDS ON YOUR HEAD...

[mair_in_grenderich]

uh huh. Can I watch television? In a tuxedo?

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

... I don't know. I'm not much of a judge of giant-hydroelectric-crushing-bikini-women-tuxedo-wearing-television-watching-abilities. *Probably*, but I'm not sure.

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

What is *that* icon?

[mair_in_grenderich]

my mother. when she was much, much younger.

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

Aw!

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

I don't know, if you analyse it it doesn't work. It probably involves hugs.

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

Doh, sorry! They must be friendslocked and I didn't notice. Sorry, I hate that.

Try http://nebris.livejournal.com/2258320.html and http://alcina2.livejournal.com/192403.html for an introduction. (Or try googling something. There ought to be a wikipedia for breaking news.)

[mair_in_grenderich]

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page ?

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

Well, yeah. I meant, this sort of thing, which mayn't be news enough to go on a real news page (though is a lot more relevant to a lot of people than things that often make the news)

PS. See meiron's post, she seems to have a consolidated link.

[lizzip.livejournal.com]

My post is now public.

[aldabra]

Because the interest word could be being used as a flag to attract people to plan illegal activity. LJ say (apparently; I've only done so much link trawling) that if they temporarily reinstated such an account to allow it to be content-checked or self-censored they could then be held legally liable for anyone that was using it for illegal purposes. So once they're aware of something that could be attracting interest from pervs they have to shut it down immediately and eprmanently. They can't take the risk of letting things past that "appear" to be legit, in case they get it wrong.

[miss-next.livejournal.com]

M'hm, yes, I can see how that would work with "victim support", but "fiction"? That sounds a trifle over-cautious to me.

I've got "science fiction" listed. I hope that's safe... :-S

[meirion.livejournal.com]

I think the message has become garbled – the actual interests were not fiction or victim support, but somewhat less savoury things. The journals, however, were often fictional, or RPG characters, or e.g. survivors of certain kinds of abuse. Some dodgy communities have been purged, but rather a lot of babies appear to have been thrown out with not very much bathwater. See http://catrinella.livejournal.com/151812.html for comprehensive details.

-m-

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

Ah, sorry, that was partly my bad phrasing -- the livejournals included fiction and victim support, not the dubious interests :)

Thank you, that looks like a helpful link, I'm glad someone came along before I broke down and looked for it myself :)

[miss-next.livejournal.com]

Thanks - now I have a much better idea of what everyone is talking about.

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

I don't think anyone's pretending it's not stupid...

I've got "science fiction" listed. I hope that's safe... :-S

I don't know. If WFI are looney-right-wing-ultra-"christian" types (I don't know if they are, that's just a guess), they're probably anti-science AND anti-fiction :)

[mair_in_grenderich]

"science isn't fiction! oneone!eleven!111"

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

Well, it *could* be.

I'm torn on "eleventy". I've always thought it was cute, but I'm sure at some point in the future I'm going to flip over into "bloodbath"... OTOH, it's cool to think in the future, "eleventy" will be a term of approbation, and only linguists will remember the etymology :)

[mair_in_grenderich]

I never mentioned eleventy. If it's going to make you flip, I'll avoid it in future as well :)

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

Oh no, not you, that just reminded me of it.

[lizzip.livejournal.com]

It's allowed - it's in LotR. :p

(OHNOES FANDOM)

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

Er, what?

[mair_in_grenderich]

And it's almost like elventy, and elves are certainly in LoTR

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

Wow, that Tolkien, and his wacky irregular plural shenanigans :)

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

Oh, right. I remember. I think we might even have had this argument before. "Eleventy" to mean "One hundred and ten" is fine (not to be overused, but has its place). "Eleventy" to mean "Ohmygoshwow" is the potential problem :)

[lizzip.livejournal.com]

It wasn't us who discussed that, actually, but interesting to know - and I'm sorry for my flippancy. (:

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

No, apparently not. At any rate, I couldn't find it in googlemail lj notifications. And, uh, I'm not objecting to flippancy, here. I dread to think anything I said sounded serious :) (Though sounding correct is ok :))

[robhu.livejournal.com]

I'm torn on "eleventy". I've always thought it was cute, but I'm sure at some point in the future I'm going to flip over into "bloodbath".
Bloodbath!11!2!onehundredandeleventyone

[ravingglory.livejournal.com]

Yeah, an RPG I read had two villains deleted :(

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

:( I don't know if anyone I knew was personally involved before.

OTOH, very http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0065.html, what a way to defeat a villain.