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<Ozy and Millie>Happy Patriotic Explosions Day!&/lt;Ozy and Millie>

Date: 2008-07-04 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robhu.livejournal.com
I was wondering... should this be a sad day for us?

Date: 2008-07-04 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] innocencest.livejournal.com
Only if you really want to be. Much like you don't have to celebrate some good thing that happened to some other people ages ago, you don't have to mourn some bad thing that happened to other people ages ago. I think there's a problem with thinking of the participants of war as Us and Them, especially when it was so remote that nobody you know has a grandfather who knew someone who was in it.

So yes, don't feel obligated to be sad.

Date: 2008-07-04 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robhu.livejournal.com
I didn't mean it seriously. I think the idea of us having colonies that have no representation but who we tax is pretty abhorrent. OTOH it seems odd that American independence from us is a big issue over there, but something we barely remember over here. I guess Britain wants to forget it's imperial past.

Date: 2008-07-04 04:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] simont
it seems odd that American independence from us is a big issue over there, but something we barely remember over here

Not all that odd, surely? The effect on them was that they gained freedom and self-determination and completely reorganised their government; the effect on us wasn't nearly that profound. It doesn't seem unreasonable at all that it was more significant to them than to us.

(Also, we have quite a few former colonies. If we commemorated the date that each one became independent of us, we'd be pretty busy, but each former colony only has one date to celebrate!)

Date: 2008-07-04 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
Not that I'm against having more holidays, but if every day is a national holiday, it starts to lose meaning :)

Date: 2008-07-04 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
Yeah, it's pretty natural. Cross-atlantic message boards generally have Brits making mild jokes about it, not being a big deal either way.

If anything brits say they celebrate "Good riddance uppity colonials day" or "Why isn't anyone replying to my emails day" :)

Date: 2008-07-05 01:56 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ravingglory.livejournal.com
A brit at the BBQ I was at had shirt which said. "

Date: 2008-07-05 01:58 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ravingglory.livejournal.com
(oh drat- must be out of it)

"4th of July, British Thanksgiving" on the back it said "(we didn't want you anyways)"

Date: 2008-07-05 06:34 am (UTC)

Date: 2008-07-04 03:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] simont
<Ozy and Millie>Happy Patriotic Explosions Day!&/lt;Ozy and Millie>

Happy Broken HTML Markup Day! >;->

Date: 2008-07-04 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
ROFL! I think I'll add "Broken HTML Markup Day, July 4th" to "Sts Cyril and Methodius Garlic Party Day, February 14th" as new replacement holidays :)