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1. When recounting, you often call out one or two of the most obvious characteristics of someone involved. Eg. if you said "And I overheard two professors walking across Trinity College, and one of them says to the other 'And, ninethly...'" or "And I overheard two students walking across Trinity College, and..." even if it doesn't actually make any difference to the story.

2. I think this ties in to the tendency to make little provisional pictures in your head when listening to a story or hypothetical.

3. People often have a default little picture.

4. Sometimes their default little picture is unfair, (eg. a default doctor being male) and in aggregate constitutes prejudice.

I'm not sure where I'm going with this, except that I often see an exchange that goes something like:

A: I saw a black man in the grocery store and he said...
B: Why is it relevant that he's black? Eh? Eh?

And I've a feeling that's a result of a miscommunication somewhere. I imagine that (1), (2) and (3) are natural human behaviour and inherently harmless (I may be wrong?), but often reveal a problem with (4).

Particularly, a noticeable characteristic is often one that differs from the default, so if the default is eg. adult white male, you might mention someone's gender or race if it's different, but mention some other characteristic if those are your "default" expectation.

I think you can try to change (4) by changing (3) and (2), eg. the common technique of picking a variety of people as examples. This can be clumsy, but is a sensible approach. However, whenever I read the A/B exchange I feel guilty for ever doing (1) at all. It may make sense to avoid it if it has the likelihood of bringing up prejudiced ideas, but I don't think it's inherently bigoted. However, of course, A and B often don't have the vocabulary to express the difference, just know that something's wrong with what the other said, so end up arguing without knowing exactly what they're arguing about.

Date: 2008-09-24 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
I think the problem with specifying is that,

Yeah. I see A/B both when what the following anecdote is stereotypical of the characteristic, and when it isn't.

Of course you're also somewhat trapped because if you want to be non-offensive, you have to guess what other people might have prejudices against: if you lived in a colour-agnostic world, you might still mention it, which would be offensive to people used to prejudice based on colour.

I don't like irrelevant details

Yeah, IKWYM. I'm generally happy with them, but not if people are going to be confusing about it.

And *sympathy* with family. I generally use names, and try to convey psychically that "The name may well not mean anything to you this time, but if you spot a pattern, feel free to start allocating mental space for the person" (which mum is good at picking up on) :)

Maybe you should invent a virtual housemate and attribute the comments of all friends your family don't know to him :)

Date: 2008-09-24 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naath.livejournal.com
Heh, maybe. I generally use the name just so as to distinguish between different people that I might mention in the same conversation. I don't really expect my parents to know everything about my friends... but apparently they think you can't talk about some remark a person made without knowing who that person is.

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