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jackAs I understand it, a green traffic light says "you are no longer forbidden to proceed", but you are still obliged to follow the normal rules of precedence, eg. if there's oncoming traffic to wait in the middle of the road to cross it.
However, I think (?) it is increasingly common for there NOT to be two lanes that cross green-lighted at once. To the extent that people are surprised when a right-turn is green-lighted, but they have to wait for oncoming traffic to clear to take it.
And I think (?) it is rare or non-existent to have a lane green-lighted when ALL directions from that lane have a further give-way. You could, in principle, have a T-Junction which also had traffic lights, where the side road ALSO had a give way instead of or as well as the traffic-light-controlled stop-line, and the traffic lights toggled between "do not pass" and "give way", but in fact, no-where does have that, because people would assume that if it was green they could just drive forward.
If my understanding is correct, should we go a stage further, and specifically sign any green light direction where you don't have SOLE priority?
However, I think (?) it is increasingly common for there NOT to be two lanes that cross green-lighted at once. To the extent that people are surprised when a right-turn is green-lighted, but they have to wait for oncoming traffic to clear to take it.
And I think (?) it is rare or non-existent to have a lane green-lighted when ALL directions from that lane have a further give-way. You could, in principle, have a T-Junction which also had traffic lights, where the side road ALSO had a give way instead of or as well as the traffic-light-controlled stop-line, and the traffic lights toggled between "do not pass" and "give way", but in fact, no-where does have that, because people would assume that if it was green they could just drive forward.
If my understanding is correct, should we go a stage further, and specifically sign any green light direction where you don't have SOLE priority?
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Date: 2010-06-02 03:22 pm (UTC)____
Here I think green light means it's my turn though that still doesn't give me the right to hit the jerks who were greedy and went through when they couldn't completely cross the intersection. I especially hate the people going straight who can see there is no room for their car on the other side who go anyway, then the light changes and no on can go the other way because their car is right there smack in the middle of two roads. ["You are not Robert Frost. When his two roads diverged, he made a choice."]
Also all-way pedestrian crossing signal intersections when pedestrians just walk whenever the hell they effing want anyway. Light is red, have to stop for pedestrians; light is green, have to stop for jerky pedestrians. (Those are where pedestrian cross walks go diagonally as well as across each street.)
And cars that see a hundred people on the corner waiting to cross with the ped light but turn against their red anyway. Because them skimming a little time off is waaaaay more important than the hundred people waiting.
Personally I think the whole thing would be easier dealt with by a toll-free smite-the-jerks hotline staffed by lightning bolt wielding deities.
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ps. no I don't really know what you're talking about, but there's nothing like implying that other people are jerks who don't follow traffic rules to get everyone het up.