Sunday

[jack]

I had nearly enough sleep on sunday. I made the mistake of finsihing the first book the night before, getting to bed about three, but I didn't have anything to do until the evening, so slept till the afternoon. It's so rare I don't have *something* to dash off to. As it happened I didn't get much of the free time in the afternoon I was expecting, due to the *other* book.

Then Doctor Who. Cool. I can't remember who said, probably mdavison or thea, that it was one genuinely creepy in places, and it was. And more so when the gasmasked boy was scrabbling at the door than when they were surrounded at the end (that did seem a bit creepy, but I felt sure they're all going to survive). It was great to see a phone inside the police box and remember that in some time periods that's actually a reasonable camoflage. And more quotes of course, it's hardly worth remembering:

"I've seen it before. Also, you just handed me a piece of paper saying you're single and work out regularly."
"I was in the middle of a german air-raid wearing a union jack!"

I was cycling and met chess and probably tienelle driving. *waves* I'm sorry I didn't wave before, it's hard to see into cars, and I'm still very wobbly when steering with one hand.

And games evening. Lots of mao. I think I inherently suck at mao, being loath to experiment and having a bad memory for when I'm supposed to say things even when I know, but practice is paying off and I start to understand stupid interacting suit-swapping rules. It is more social when you can talk, but I did come to appreciate how distracting it can be when people are yelling. And, godsdammit TOMATOES ARE A VEGETABLE[1], ok? Though I was careful not to make that a game-breaking issue. sonicdrift wasn't evil, and come to think of it she isn't an evil DM either, just threatens to be :) Ian wasn't evil. People who seemed new did well.

[1] Firstly, what I hope is unarguable. Fruit is a botanic term, and tomatoes having seeds unquestionably fit it. Vegetable to me is a colloqial term meaning "edible garden plant, probably low-lying, probably not sweet, sold in the vegetable section of a supermarket" and OED says "A plant cultivated for food; esp. an edible herb or root used for human consumption and commonly eaten, either cooked or raw, with meat or other article of food." Where does the superstiiton that fruits and vegetables are disjoint come from?

Comments

[mair_in_grenderich]

Aren't tomatoes sweet? I thought they were.

Is there a good tshirt slogan based around "I'm being argumentative", only, well, good?

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

I said 'probably'...

Is there a good tshirt slogan based around "I'm being argumentative", only, well, good?

A: You're being argumentative.
B: No, I'm not.

or

A: Taking a contrary position isn't just saying "no it isn't"
B: Yes it is.

?

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

How did I know that out of all of that, the tomato thing would get the response? A: Because it was the most argued about at the time, too :)

[mair_in_grenderich]

you put it in capitals, it's the only bit I read ;)

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

LOL. Fair enough, that was where I was most emphatic... I try to bold bits to serve as titles, perhaps that's actually a good idea :)

[chess]

You did kind of look vaguely startled, which was more than I'd expected someone on a bike to really do.

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

LOL. I'm too used to thinking of cars as maelevelont or indifferent hazards to remember they have people in :) Pretend I waved back cheerily, and perhaps stopped to chat :)

[edith-the-hutt.livejournal.com]

Under what definition do you place tomatoes as a vegtable? I thought they were a fruit.

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

[1]

[edith-the-hutt.livejournal.com]

Ah I must have missed that :)

So what's a quince?

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

So what's a quince?

I have no idea what a quince is, to me it sounds like a self-replicating sentence :)

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

:)

[beckyc.livejournal.com]

Hmmm, whether I call something a fruit or a vegetable depends on its culinary purpose, form and use. Depending on context, I'll usually specify whether I'm referring to something that is botanically a vegetable or merely culinarily.

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

Where botanically 'vegetable' means 'vegetable kingdom, ie. any plant'? :)

[edith-the-hutt.livejournal.com]

So to get to the heart of the matter. Why do we bother distinguishing between fruit and veg?

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

Well, botanically both are useful, of course. Colloquially? I often do want a veg here, or a fruit there, which would see to justify it. Unless you want to blame sapir-wharf :)

[mobbsy.livejournal.com]

Calling a tomato, cucumber and pepper salad "fruit salad" would be amusing.

Are tomatoes more fruity when used in a chutney?

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

That will now be my official punishment for pedants :)

[rochvelleth.livejournal.com]

"I've seen it before. Also, you just handed me a piece of paper saying you're single and work out regularly."

I think the psychic paper should have its own fandom. Hmm, remind me to make it feature in my Whofic...

I thought the bit where the Other Doctor got his gas mask was the creepiest bit, didn't you? I mean, yeah, creepy kid (who was scarier the second time round but not the third), but old man talking like a kid? *shiver*

[cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com]

Yeah, it's cool :) *thinks* Like many things, it keeps being an idea for fic, but not enough to support a whole one...

I thought the bit where the Other Doctor got his gas mask was the creepiest bit, didn't you?

It was creepy when he says 'get away' but somehow the special effects of growing his mask ruined the creepy for me :(