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Leap of Faith

The scene near the end of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, where Indy is going through the path to the grail and trying to overcome the challenges, and comes to an impassable chasm. And he walks across, and it turns out there is a path there.

Slightly embarrassingly, I didn't realise until just now that it was a physical stone bridge painted in a forced-perspective trick to look like the chasm on either side. I don't know if I saw a truncated version or looked away at the wrong moment or just didn't notice. It was a physical trap couched in religiously observant language, like the previous two, when I assumed it was magic.

However, in some way that doesn't matter, because there is magic in Indiana Jones, with the Grail and Ark and possibly the glowy stones in the middle film, and the story is basically the same either way.

Although I thought it was interesting that if Indy was going to try jumping, he didn't try tossing something onto the bridge first to see. I guess, like jumping into a cold swimming pool, if there was nothing there, he'd have to try jumping anyway if there was the slightest chance it could save Henry, and if so, better not to know there was nothing there?

Crossing the Rush

Indiana Jones' solution to crossing a chasm was simply to trust in God and walk across. I wonder if, on reaching the Rush, if the Pevensies had tried just walking across empty air, it would have worked?

I guess... maybe? Not if they just wanted to see if it would work? But yes if it really was the only way to avert Caspian's defeat?

Faith in Indiana Jones

I think the Indiana Jones films are great, but I haven't seen them for ages so my memory is a bit spotty.

I actually thought the biblical supernatural elements were really good, in that you never get to know exactly how much biblical truth is behind them, but it builds up a creeping realisation that there's something, and then fulfils it at a dramatic moment. When Indy closes his eyes at the end of Ark of the Covenant, we don't know what's going on -- but we know that messing with the ark is bad, and Indy does what little he can to avoid it while he's tied up.

But Liv, actually knowing more of the history, I think disagreed, so I'm not sure.

Date: 2012-09-26 12:31 pm (UTC)
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there is magic in Indiana Jones, with the Grail and Ark and possibly the glowy stones in the middle film

And definitely the heart-pulling-out guy in the middle film, whether or not the magic stones turn out to be genuinely magical.

Date: 2012-09-26 04:51 pm (UTC)
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He reached into somebody's chest and pulled their heart out, somehow without killing them, as a prelude to human sacrifice. In the climactic battle at the end he tried to pull Indy's heart out too but Indy defended himself. (Presumably it wouldn't have killed Indy instantly, since it didn't the previous time, but presumably also once you've got somebody's heart in your hand it's relatively easy to make it stop going.)