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I've been playing a lot of draw something[1] and this has led to drawing lots of stick figures.

And I realise that I fell into the traditional trap of using an unadorned stick-figure for for a generic person, but also for "man", and using a stick figure with a skirt for "woman", because those are the most recognisable.

And I really don't like doing that. What SHOULD I do?

One thing is to find some way of indicating "male stick figure", even if it's still gender-stereotypical, eg a hat. That way, at least I'm not contributing to the assumption that generic stick figures are men, even if I'm not fighting it.

Another would be always draw a stick figure with a gender marker, so at least I send a message of "stick-figure world contains people of all genders". But in some ways that makes it worse, making it look as if (a) gender were important for stick figures and (b) there were only two genders of stick-figures.

Probably the best would be to draw stick figures with a coloured rectangle instead of a line for a body, because that way you can vary the drawing a bit without being ostentatious about it. But I'm worried that it stretches my art skills too far :)

Is there a "right" way of drawing stick figures?

I also find it difficult to draw vikings without drawing helmets with horns on them, but I'm sure most people I know know the truth of the viking helmets, so I'm not perpetuating misinformation (and even if I am, it probably doesn't matter as much).

[1] As "cartesiandaemon". Anyone else want to play, tell me your username!

Date: 2013-07-03 11:23 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] momentsmusicaux
At least beards are biological. Skirts, bowties, hairbows (the last two suggested elsewhere on this post) are just social convention.

But then that won't work for drawing child stick figures.

Date: 2013-07-03 07:53 pm (UTC)
kaberett: Trans symbol with Swiss Army knife tools at other positions around the central circle. (Default)
From: [personal profile] kaberett
No.

Just No.

You do not get to gender me based on your perceptions of my biology.

Date: 2013-07-04 03:02 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dreamatdrew
ERROR: Argument not based in fact.
I know Generally-Reguarded-As-Male persons who could not grow a beard to save their life, and I know Generally-Reguarded-As-Female persons who at the end of the day have a 5-o-clock shadow to contend with. The presence, absence, or quantity of hair growing from a person's body does not count as an actual reliable gender marker, even if one sticks to the binary categories.

Date: 2013-07-04 09:36 am (UTC)
momentsmusicaux: (Default)
From: [personal profile] momentsmusicaux
Well in that case, stick figures shouldn't have arms or legs. Not everybody has those.

Date: 2013-07-04 11:13 pm (UTC)
kaberett: A drawing of a black woman holding her right hand, minus a ring finger, in front of her face. "Oh, that. I cut it  off." (molly - cut it off)
From: [personal profile] kaberett
Okay, for serious, this is not okay. The things you are saying? They are really shitty, and really hurtful, and have resulted in me getting nauseous and choked up and adrenaline-spike-y every time I think about them.

I strongly suggest you do some more reading before you keep talking about this topic. Relevant keywords include "biological essentialism", "binarism", and "cissexism". Julia Serano's blog is excellent, as is CN Lester's. You should also consider reading disability rights activism blogs - for example, the archives at FWD/Feminists With Disabilities - because seriously, I cannot believe you thought it was acceptable to pull that out as ~stunning counterargument~.