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Ban on violent net porn: RIP Mills and Boon?

In other news a killer nurse, up to 80 americans, a baby and a motorbike racer are dead [1] :( And the notting hill carnival, founded according to BBC documentary I watched to in response to race riots fourty years ago, ended in... race riots, well ish :(

[1] Didn't a politician die last week? I thought I saw it on the news, but now can't find any reference?

Date: 2005-08-30 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] senji.livejournal.com
Mo Mowlem.

Also, I didn't know Mills and Boon did fishing/bondage stories...

Date: 2005-08-30 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
No, more recently than that...

Maybe not M&B themselves, but I was thinking of the 'ravishing' which happens in so much cheesy romance...

Date: 2005-08-30 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] despotliz.livejournal.com
According to the Times, the proposed law would not cover text or cartoons. Mills and Boon are safe for now.

Date: 2005-08-30 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
Hmmm. Well apparently it's *already* illegal to publish it, so apparently M&B are considered ok so far... Or the law is more explicit (npi) on how it defines violence than described in the articles.

OTOH, I'm naturally leery of something than specifies a medium. It can make sense -- internet does require different laws to paper because of eg. caches etc -- but OTOH produces silly effects like having to print out american crypto code, export it, and type it in...

Date: 2005-08-30 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atreic.livejournal.com
Well, I can see why photos of people abusing children are worse than pictures of / stories about people abusing children...

Date: 2005-08-30 04:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
Indeed.

Though the law is often inconsistent on hte issue of photorealistic fakes, for instance.

And I didn't see that the article said the law was restricted to images only, and still aren't sure, though it seems to imply it. Which does make a difference I hadn't realised.

Date: 2005-08-30 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ilanin.livejournal.com
Just be glad you live in the United Kingdom and not somewhere with a constitutionally protected right to free expression. Ahem. Warning: Salon.com link, meaning those of you not me and with a premium subscription will be annoyed by an ad if you want to read it. Fortunately, I do not expect the American Right's ethos, which appears to be "if it isn't clearly protected in the constitution and it might be fun, then we'll ban it" (which is probably just as well, since we lack a constitution to protect things)

Date: 2005-08-30 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ilanin.livejournal.com
That sentence should end "to catch on over here"

Date: 2005-08-30 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] despotliz.livejournal.com
I wasn't aware it was illegal to publish any sort of text-based porn, so you can be as violent as you like. I think it's just making it illegal to publish or to view the images and videos of such events, which will remove the potential for women to be exploited for the making of pornographic images which presumably is less likely to happen if you're just writing a particularly nasty bit of erotica.

Date: 2005-08-30 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
I wasn't aware it was illegal to publish any sort of text-based porn, so you can be as violent as you like.

I don't know the law. I thought in some countries obsenity law forbade some things. And you *might* run afoul of incitement to, or libel, or something.

Date: 2005-08-30 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ilanin.livejournal.com
Mo Mowlam is your dead politician, continuing the string of deaths amongst those former Labour ministers who opposed the Iraq War.