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Feminism means:
"Belief in the social, political, and economic equality of the sexes." (The dictionary definiton.)
People who think women are still mostly opressed, who most people think are loonies.
Comments:



ETA:

5 people ticked both
1 person ticked the second
9 people ticked the first

Comments:
"It means the first. feminist, on the other hand, is usually the second."
"You can't spell oppressed! And there are ways in which women are still oppressed. And indeed men are also constrained by gender stereotypes. Woman's hour this morning was talking about the patriachy being a cause of men's shorter life expectancy"

I need to rephrase the second, perhaps.

Date: 2005-11-17 03:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mair_in_grenderich
what's a social equality?

Date: 2005-11-17 03:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] emperor
Just do LJ polls, dammit.

Date: 2005-11-17 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enismirdal.livejournal.com
I guess it depends on the person really.

I find a lot of feminism really offensive. Sort of "I'm so empowered that I need to use words like 'wi'myn' and 'herstory' instead of the regular ones everyone else uses" - those types of loonies get on my nerves. It's like, I really really don't like a lot of these "women in sciences" kinds of conferences/mentoring schemes/training courses, as they imply women need some kind of special treatment/bribery/mothering in order to get anywhere in life. Giving women that kind of idea is as much of a problem as any other source of "oppression" in many ways.

The best kind of feminism, in my opinion, is just to get on with one's life and have a good time, whilst co-incidentally being female. I am a scientist first and a woman second, as far as careers and so on go.

Date: 2005-11-17 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rochvelleth.livejournal.com
Why can't I see the results? I want to know if I'm the only person who voted for only the second option!

Date: 2005-11-17 06:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com
Loonies are just loonies, but quite a few otherwise-sensible people come out with things like "I don't consider myself a feminist|like feminism because <loonies>". There's several mistakes that I suppose might lead to this: for instance listening to the loud to the exclusion of the sensible; attempting to shift blame for own opinions onto loonies; misanalysis of society.