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Dec. 20th, 2005 01:38 pm
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Wow, I use the word 'dick' a lot. (here, if you want to see the meme) This surprised me: afaik I don't use the word 'dick' at all.

It's not something I tend to swear with. I generally use something inventive, or 'fuck'.

It's not something I call people -- to me someone being a 'dick' has a subtle distinction from similar insults, suggesting someone who is obnoxious, and not deliberately maelevolent, but specifically accepts their behaviour and makes no effort to change it.

It's not something I call a penis except in occasional jest. I've annoyed or endeared a couple of people by being basically unable to call a penis anything but a spade penis.

And then I remembered - I had a long post about translating spotted dick into spanish. That was probably it.

It reminded me of Gene Wiengarten testing his spam filter. He found several emails about female dogs, gut men porn at monmouth, and the like vanishing, and then when he was thinking the threshold was too high, got a "see a teen girl do it with her horse its[1] free", and commented "They still have some kinks to work out of the system. As it were."

This sort of thing keyword filtering isn't going to catch, and indeed would be quite difficult to filter for even with fairly decent language processing, though normally gives itself away by having html, pictures, non-existant words, links, or 1En copies.

[1] sic.

Date: 2005-12-20 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-next.livejournal.com
I usually call it a John Thomas. However, this expression is apparently not known in Liverpool, which caused one of the most embarrassing experiences I've had in my life. My (then) husband and I had gone to stay with a clergyman in Liverpool, and we had only just arrived when one of his parishioners walked in and announced, "John Thomas has just died." How we kept our faces straight I shall never know.

Just to make it even worse, the clergyman later explained to us that the late gentleman, who was Welsh, was originally called Ogwyn John Thomas, but he dropped the Ogwyn when he came to Liverpool because he didn't want everyone to call him Oggy!

Date: 2005-12-21 01:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
:) It's always names. I mean, there must be a fair number of John Thomas if the phrase isn't universal. And lots of peters, and johns, and so on.

Date: 2005-12-22 06:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mhw.livejournal.com
And the former director of Computing Services at Warwick, Mike Hunt. How parents can be so obtuse is beyond me.

Date: 2005-12-20 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oedipamaas49.livejournal.com
At least it's a reminder of how much hassle people go through when their school/work/whatever blocks pages with naughty words on them.

Date: 2005-12-20 06:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feanelwa.livejournal.com
You could get rid of that one by filtering out the phrase "see a teen girl/teen girls do it with". There don't seem to be a lot of other uses for that phrase.

Date: 2005-12-21 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-aj.livejournal.com
At the very least, that kind of thing would filter out anybody talking *about* spam ... like if this post were in e-mail form :-). Or people with a disturbing sense of humour. Which is why modern spam solutions tend to learn ham as well as spam, so in that instance they could say "keywords point to it being spam, but there's so much pre-amble that looks like things we've seen (only) in legitimate e-mail before, so on the balance of probabilities it's genuine".

Date: 2005-12-21 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
Indeed.

And there's so many different phrasings. Even If you could ban "see a teen girl do it with" they can say "watch as lucy and dobbin get jiggy with it" which is completely different on any low level, you can't do everything.

Date: 2005-12-20 07:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] hmmm-tea.livejournal.com
Wow, I use the word 'dick' a lot... ...long post about translating spotted dick into spanish.

Yes seem to have a similar thing with 'cock'. Suspect it all comes from all the cock-burns the other week.

Date: 2005-12-20 10:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vyvyan.livejournal.com
I've annoyed or endeared a couple of people by being basically unable to call a penis anything but a spade penis.

Heh. I feel inspired to call them spades from now on :-)

Date: 2005-12-21 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
I've a feeling I'm about to be blamed for a whole clod of unsavory inneundo.

Meme

Date: 2005-12-21 11:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angelofthenorth.livejournal.com

ljCuss - 20 Public Entry Version

hell6
shit5
cock5
oral2
tramp2
crap1
screw1
semen1
jugs1
pussy1
wank1
Jul17
Jun6
Dec3

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Interesting - I think the fact that I talk about being a 'cockleshell pilgrim' might have had something to do with it ;)

And most of the rest of that wasn't rude in context...

Re: Meme

Date: 2005-12-21 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
You'd think you'd say 'cock' every day in that case ;)

Re: Meme

Date: 2005-12-23 11:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angelofthenorth.livejournal.com
No, not really, but I know I mentioned it a few times

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