Coalition negotiations
May. 7th, 2010 02:19 pmSo, we have results for 640/650 seats. It looks like the final result will be (within a few seats) is something like:
Con: 308 (Edit: including Con independent and undeclared safe seat)
Lab:259 258
Lib: 57
DUP 8
Sinn Fein 5
SNP 6
Plaid 3
SDLP 3
Assuming Sinn Fein continue to refuse to participate, you need 323 for a government majority. What coalitions are numerically possible, however unlikely, either as a minority government with support from another party, or as a coalition government?
1. Con+LibDem. Probably the most plausible.
2. Con+DUP + ~7 votes from SNP, Plaid, SDLP, Lib or Labour. It seems they probably don't have quite enough votes for this, as I don't think the small parties are natural allies, but they may want to try??
3. Lab + Lib + ~7 votes from SNP, Plaid, SDLP, or Con. I would probably prefer this "everyone but con" coalition, but so many people hate labour I doubt it could hold together??
4. Lab+Lib+Con. Very unlikely, but it worked in the war.
5. Lab+Con. No no no no. They can't ever be seen to work together or what's the point, and just about the only things where Lab+Con agree and Lib don't are horrible civil liberty violations.
But I don't really know what's workable. Does anyone have a better idea of what's possible?
On the continent, the approved procedure (not always working) would be a period of several weeks (or more) of negotiations, where leaders would compare various coalitions, and agree in advance what the concessions would be. More of a balance between two largeish parties, as opposed to simply purchasing a smaller party outright with a very specific promise (which happens is a large party is _just_ short of a majority).
For instance, Lib/Con would be most likely, but it means both have to be prepared to walk away if it doesn't work, and whatever Lib wants needs to be worked into the policy from the start, not tacked on later when they get fed up of being used and stop cooperating. But UK doesn't seem quite used to this process.
What should I be hoping for?
Con: 308 (Edit: including Con independent and undeclared safe seat)
Lab:
Lib: 57
DUP 8
Sinn Fein 5
SNP 6
Plaid 3
SDLP 3
Assuming Sinn Fein continue to refuse to participate, you need 323 for a government majority. What coalitions are numerically possible, however unlikely, either as a minority government with support from another party, or as a coalition government?
1. Con+LibDem. Probably the most plausible.
2. Con+DUP + ~7 votes from SNP, Plaid, SDLP, Lib or Labour. It seems they probably don't have quite enough votes for this, as I don't think the small parties are natural allies, but they may want to try??
3. Lab + Lib + ~7 votes from SNP, Plaid, SDLP, or Con. I would probably prefer this "everyone but con" coalition, but so many people hate labour I doubt it could hold together??
4. Lab+Lib+Con. Very unlikely, but it worked in the war.
5. Lab+Con. No no no no. They can't ever be seen to work together or what's the point, and just about the only things where Lab+Con agree and Lib don't are horrible civil liberty violations.
But I don't really know what's workable. Does anyone have a better idea of what's possible?
On the continent, the approved procedure (not always working) would be a period of several weeks (or more) of negotiations, where leaders would compare various coalitions, and agree in advance what the concessions would be. More of a balance between two largeish parties, as opposed to simply purchasing a smaller party outright with a very specific promise (which happens is a large party is _just_ short of a majority).
For instance, Lib/Con would be most likely, but it means both have to be prepared to walk away if it doesn't work, and whatever Lib wants needs to be worked into the policy from the start, not tacked on later when they get fed up of being used and stop cooperating. But UK doesn't seem quite used to this process.
What should I be hoping for?