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Some people automatically associate Hannukah and Christmas, because they occur at the same time of year, but in terms of similarity, passover and christmas are a much better match.

Reasons (mostly tongue in cheek) why passover is like christmas:

* It's traditionally the big family get together of the year
* The one celebration that people tend to hang on to, even if they leave the culture entirely
* It's traditionally built around a big meal
* And traditional songs
* And ritual hats
* And presents
* And crackers (well, sort of)
* Even though the original story is a bit gory
* And you put a cup of wine out for a supernatural entity who sneaks in when you're not looking and drinks it, and will decide whether everyone's been being righteous or not
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One of the controvertial questions I asked while learning about Judaism is "Is there anything all jews agree on". There is very, very little: almost ANYTHING is guaranteed to start a big debate[1]. However, over four years, I have picked up one or two things that seem to qualify.

Note, I don't literally mean all. For any question about any religion there's always going to be SOMEONE who disagrees. But I mean that, in general, if you ask a couple of people who know, the response will generally be "yes, of course", not "well, you'd think that, and obviously I agree, but actually so-and-so thought that was totally wrong because..." and start arguing about it.

What I've come up with so far:

  • There is at most one God
  • Do not disrepect the torah scrolls
  • Do not do human sacrifice, ever
  • Cloths other than linen and wool can be mixed with impunity and linen and wool are ok to be worn at the same time with no way to touch


Lots of people (especially in New York and Israel) identify as jewish without being observant at all, and many more people are observant to a greater or lesser extent, but don't believe in God. But if I understand correctly, there's still rather a taboo against believing in other Gods, so few people still identify as Jewish if they believe something polytheistic[2]

And people outside Judaism may not even be familiar with Torah scrolls, but every synagogue has a big completely hand-written scroll of the Torah, which is held up and paraded round and read from during services. And I can't imagine anyone ever harming one: even if you don't believe it, you'd put it in a museum or something.

Human sacrifice doesn't really need an explanation, it's just hard to find anything that no-one has been in favour of, I cried "aha!" when I found another entry for the list.

Some orthodox people do still follow the no-mixed-wool-and-linen rule. But it seems to be one of the few rules that hasn't accreted a lot of extra suggestions around it over the years (like, "do not boil a kid in its mother's milk" became "do not eat meat and milk within four hours of each other"). So no-one (as far as Liv knew) kept any stricter version of it, which means everyone's A-OK with mixing other things in clothes :)

Are there any other suggestions? :)

[1] Liv cited an example where Bluejo's livejournal asked "What do Jews do on passover" and someone said "We argue a lot" and someone else said "No we don't!"

[2] I'm sure there must be pagan jews, but I think it must still be controvertial?
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OK, I mentioned this is passing in the last post, but talking to Liv clarified it a bit. Have I got this right?

I think (?) that the traditional view of Mark 7, Mark is supposed to be describing Jesus as making a _new_ declaration. "You know all that Kosher stuff, don't worry about it. Being a good person is more important." In fact, it explictly says "(In saying this, Jesus declared all foods 'clean')".

However, I think (?) that the brackets were added by the translator, who didn't necessarily know much about 25AD Jewish laws and customs. Is that right?

If so, I'm mildly shocked. I mean, I know that the bible has been passed down and interpreted before it was written down, but I'm used to thinking of what we have now as fairly fixed, and the best record of what Jesus (probably) said. But no, people just went ahead and added stuff :(

However, I think if I've got this right, that parable makes more sense interpreted with a knowledge of the difference between Kashrut (dietary laws) and cleanliness. Eating non-Kosher food was a restriction on what you could _do_, but it didn't put you into a special state of uncleanliness. Kosher was what _everyone_ did.

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1. It is traditional eat oily foods (latkes, doughnuts, etc) and possibly cheese, for (separate) complicated apocryphal reasons. Latkes are fried potato cakes, typically made with (widely varying combinations of), potato, onion and egg, grated, mixed and fried[1].

2. It happens some time between late november and late december, lasting eight days.

3. It traditionally commemorates a revolt against attempts to change or suppress various Jewish practices (although many people point out the actual history isn't simple) but either way its polite not to try to police other people's religious practices especially at Hannukkah.

4. The most common spellings are "Hanukkah" and "Chanukah". Because it's originally transliterated from Hebrew, so there's no "right" spelling. Either is probably fine, although it's probably wise to pick one or the other. I asked Liv and she said that there could be many spellings of the original Hebrew and she didn't know off the top of her head which, and as far as she knew there were no lurking connotations of either of the common spellings, but there was probably a trans-atlantic difference. But I can't remember which.

5. A menorah is a seven-branched candlabrum which was used in the temple in Jerusalem and before, and often used as a symbol of Judaism and/or Israel. But as with many complicated rules, isn't actually really USED at the moment, since there isn't a temple any more. After the revolt was successful and the (second) temple was recaptured and rededicated, there is an apocryphal miracle where they didn't have enough oil to keep the menorah alight, but what they thought was one day's supply lasted a whole eight days until more could be brought in. Thus, Hannukkah is celebrated by lighting eight candles over eight days. These are often but not necessarily placed in a candlabrum which resembles a traditional menorah, which is either simply called a Menorah, or to avoid confusion, a Hanukiah.

6. The menorah should be placed where it can best be seen from the street (in order to make a _public_ celebration?). Usually people place them in windowsills, and if they live a long way from the street, just accept it's not perfect, but if you have a choice, it should be somewhere visible.

7. The candles should not be used for anything. In fact, the most likely thing you will use the candles for accidentally are (a) seeing and (b) lighting the other candles, so tradition dictates that you also light a nineth helper candle, and you can use that to light the others, and to see by. If you accidentally walk into a darkened room with a lit menorah, you should 8/9 shut your eyes so you're only using the light from the helper candle, not the others[2].

8. I don't know much about Hanukkah traditions for families, but apparently there's an exceptionally boring and pointless zero-sum form of gambling forced onto small children, where you give them some number of treats, and encourage them to bet them against a shared pot based on the result of a traditional spinner, and repeat until they figure out that the best way of winning gambling is to be the house, not the punter.

9. Bonus fact. Hanukkah doesn't have very much in common with Christmas. They both have little twinkly lights, a tradition of annoying party games, are more cultural than religious. But Passover is a lot more like the the Christmas "big family get-together with a big meal and little bits of history story" aspect. Hanukkah is perhaps more like shrove tuesday (theologically questionable oily foods), November the fifth (lots of solstice fire with a questionable link to historical political events) or July fourteenth (lots of fire and celebration, but tinged with rembrance of triumph over tyranny).

Footnotes

[1] Helpful tip! Don't grate the egg. Also, don't slavishly follow Jewish recipes described second hand on the internet by English atheists, and if you do, definitely don't admit in public that you tried to grate an egg, made a mess, and hurt your fingers.

[2] I made this bit up. Also, note that you light one candle the first night, two the second night, etc, so on the first night you can keep your eyes half-open, etc. And when I say you light eight candles over eight nights, I mean they light one more each night, but then leave them to burn down, lighting thirty-six plus eight helpers over the whole period.

[3] I considered claiming the facts were "top" or "interesting", but decided against it :)
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The piece of Hebrew writing called the Haggadah is the traditional instructions for the passover meal. Basically "here is the story of the exodus and a number of other traditions". People normally do some subset of this.

You should find one of these. Preferably one with text in your native language, or at least a language you read, or at least an alphabet you read. It also helps if the most important things are printed biggest, because then it's much more natural to have a service with, rather than without, the important bits.

But the basic things you should include are:

The story of the exodus I

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It's generally considered polite to leave a brief respectful silence rather than attempt to capture with the best sound a drunken person can make out of common eating utensils the concept of the Holiest of Holies, Blessed be He, God, striking down the Angel of Death. Maybe thunder.
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It's presumably obvious, but I feel I should specify that I don't actually know what I'm talking about. I'm absorbed a large amount of information from pillow talk with Liv (we have the best pillow talk), and I hope it's fair if far from complete, but don't get into an argument where you say "well, Cartesiandaemon said Liv said Rabbi Hillel said the prophet Elijah said Moses said God said X, so it must be right!" I'll do my best to make sure what I say is somewhat true, but it will contain many examples where the emphasis is in the wrong place and it gives the wrong impression :)