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OK, edited :)

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I have now read all about Soylent Green on wikipedia. I feel slightly sad to no longer be the last person on earth not to know about it.

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simont

indiscriminantly

You mean, with at least one zero eigenvalue? I can see how that would be an undesirable feature in a salesman, certainly.

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I don't know I can think of some salesmen for whom being completely flat would be a good thing ;) (Also, oops, sorry.)

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The basic position is that people own copyright in whatever they create by default. There are some exceptions but I don't believe LJ comments are among them l-)

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Duly stipulated, but there are potential wrinkles I'm not competant to have a legal opinion on, eg.:

* What if we're in different countries with different laws?
* I think some corporate message boards assert ownership of content. Does that work?
* I may potentially make a post unprivate: is that permitted?
* May I back up my journal including comments?
* May I quote comments in their entirety, with attribution, elsewhere?
* Do I have an obligation to remove legally obscene comments?

And it seems right, if I'm going to talk about copyright of some things, to let people know what areas I haven't thought about and the default and/or common sense approach may prevail.

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Ask a lawyer l-)

I'd try to keep to things that a reasonable person ough to expect, which I think ought to include backups but I don't think would include deliberately tricking people by changing the restrictions on a posting after they've commented.

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(Does the |-) smily have a particular meaning? Or "Geordi La Forge"?) But lol. I do have a habit of ringing up lawyers of my acquaintance and leading with leading and complex legal hypothetical questions :) But I don't know any any more, and this is a bit prosaic :) So, since I'm actually not going to bother doing anything about it, there's a choice between "not caring and not saying anything" and "not caring and saying so" :)

I'd try to keep to things that a reasonable person ough to expect,

Certainly.

I don't think would include deliberately tricking people by changing the restrictions on a posting after they've commented.

Hm? Where did that come from?

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Hm? Where did that come from?

'Making a post unprivate'. If you post with a restrictive setting by accident you ought to be allowed to fix it. If someone's already posted you should be allowed to use your judgement; if someone posts in the gap between you noticing and you fixing it you ought not to be considered evil.

The smiley started out as laziness but I kept it for the wrap-around shades look.

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"Just Plain and Simple Garak"

Doh! Sorry -- I read "restrictions" as refering to requests, not the tech. Now it makes sense.

I agree with your sense: I would want to be *able* to, but wouldn't if I thought there might be any problem. I think I can normally tell if anyone would mind.

I don't know if they would have any hope or not of arguing that you published their writing without permission, though :)

The smiley started out as laziness but I kept it for the wrap-around shades look.

Thanks. It is cool. But I thought I'd best check, in case it was a reply I didn't quite follow -- the trouble with smilies as tone of voice is they're not totally consistent :)

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karen2205

assuming that the default amongst people I know is clear, even if it annoys some people, being approximately the rules of the living room:

Those aren't my rules. I generally abide with them on other people's journals, though.

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I glossed over a lot. (And eg. forgot to mention when I 'friend' people or expect to be friended, or confidentialityness) Basically, I've never had a problem, so have never really had to think about it.

Do you have, or think are normal, rules that are noticably different? I mainly tried to describe what seemed common sense to me, it's entirely possible that something else would turn out to be better common sense if expressed to me :)

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I intend to always put non-work-safe stuff behind a cut, that's ok isn't it? And I do tend to swear like a sailor, sorry about that.

While we're at it anyone want to buy some pencils?!

;)

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Don't worry, I'm talking about comments, not posts, to which a different lot of conventions apply. Yes, that's fine. In fact, something in comments is *probably* fine, I don't mind a few tits[1], but just want people to be careful, don't post large or hardcore images, or flashing blinking lights and music saying "timewaster", or try to sell hard drugs... :)

While we're at it anyone want to buy some pencils?!

What? Is that a euphemism I'm too young to understand? :)

[1] Understatement ;)

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I don't get it. Is this referring to a post I haven't seen or something?

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Sorry, I can often be too cryptic? What don't you get? "What soylent green was" was mentioned in a conversation in the meatverse; when someone had not heard what most people have about it, and it transpired that almost everyone else in fact knew almost nothing else, not even which film it was a spoiler for (and made her increasingly agitated as we took great amusement in being unable to answer even simple questions on the subject :)).

The posting conventions thing was a reference to many people finding it necessary to say on their userinfo things like under what circumstances they may delete comments from their journal; with some people, but not people I know, typically, there can be drama as people use/abuse this sort of privelege.

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Oh OK I wasn't sure whether it was a real conversation or a post I'd missed.

I think there has to be a statute of limitations on spoilers, as otherwise no-one would be able to talk about any movie. 'Soylent Green' is a few years old now so perhaps the reasonable time for being protected from possible spoilers has passed.

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Sure. In fact, some sort of sliding scale: it also depends who you're talking to, how much the movie is changed if you know, and how likely people are to know. Even how much knowing there *is* a twist is a giveaway.

So basically, any old film, I won't try very hard. (And any historical event, certainly! TITANIC WAS DESIGNED TO BE SEEN KNOWING THE BOAT WAS GOING TO SINK; ALSO THEY DREDGED FROM IT IN THE FIRST SCENE.) Except, any particularly good yet slightly obscure film that people may yet see, that is particularly dependent on the twist, I will try to respect that.

Except -- some films have become complete injokes for the twist, it seems almost completely pointless to try to keep it secret. "I am your father," is such a catchphrase, someone is almost certainly going to find out somewhere, even if they haven't yet, so there's almost no point not saying.

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I remember watching Batman the film a few years ago now, with my brother. When Bruce Wayne starts telling Kim Basinger how he is not like normal people, I expressed confusion, at which point my brother said 'on account of him being Batman'. I had no idea, I sulked at him for the whole rest of the film for that plot spoiler. Over time I have come to see that for most people Bruce=Batman was a given.
Next you are going to tell me that Peter Parker isn't just some chap who printed Paradise Lost

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Peter Parker published Paradise Lost? For God's sake, woman, restrain yourself from telling us these things! :)

Sorry, yes, that is a tricky one. I don't think it's ever supposed to be a secret about batman, so I wouldn't worry about telling people. But if I know someone particularly does care, I'd avoid it round them.

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It is the same with books reely. I mean there are certain books that you have to assume most people in your culture are familiar with, if they haven't read them at least they know the basic idea. And some things are so famous (justly or unjustly) that everyone knows the top secret plot anyway, eg The Da Vinci Code.

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Yeah. I don't know what the *most* known secret is.

Jesus rises from the dead.
Dracula is a vampire -- no-one can even hear

Hmm, I should probably post about that...

OTOH, I knew a bit about what happened in Da Vine Code, but not the details of the plot. And maybe people I know deliberately avoid it, so maybe not as well known as it could be :)

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Obviously nonsense. For instance, you could just ask who had seen the film in question before diving in with the plot details.

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