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By the way, this came up on monday, and it is as I thought, and in case it wasn't clear at the time: the film for which what Soylent Green is is a spoiler is "Soylent Green".

PS. And please don't say what it is in a comment to be funny. I know the meme is more popular than the movie now, and everyone knows what happens (the last person who didn't was told on monday today) but just humour me, the irony would be too painful otherwise.

Edit: PPS. Other spoilers are as ok as normal though. Elim Garak, I am your father!

PPPS. I think this being the first time I've made explicit a comment policy. I know some people explain, but I've always left it implicit, assuming that the default amongst people I know is clear, even if it annoys some people, being approximately the rules of the living room:

* I reserve the right to enforce my will on my place, but in actual fact everything will be controlled by social etiquette.
* Except people I don't know trying to sell stuff to people indiscriminantly. They will be ejected.
* People breaking the law in a major way, ditto.
* Be polite, no gratuitous hate, no gratuitously work unsafe stuff, be careful with legally dodgy stuff. Or I'll ask you nicely not to :)
* Never edit something without making it clear, if it changes the meaning.
* Everything I write copyright me. Everything you write, I'm not sure.
* If I ask you to abide by an etiquette, please do.

Date: 2006-09-21 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
Sure. In fact, some sort of sliding scale: it also depends who you're talking to, how much the movie is changed if you know, and how likely people are to know. Even how much knowing there *is* a twist is a giveaway.

So basically, any old film, I won't try very hard. (And any historical event, certainly! TITANIC WAS DESIGNED TO BE SEEN KNOWING THE BOAT WAS GOING TO SINK; ALSO THEY DREDGED FROM IT IN THE FIRST SCENE.) Except, any particularly good yet slightly obscure film that people may yet see, that is particularly dependent on the twist, I will try to respect that.

Except -- some films have become complete injokes for the twist, it seems almost completely pointless to try to keep it secret. "I am your father," is such a catchphrase, someone is almost certainly going to find out somewhere, even if they haven't yet, so there's almost no point not saying.

Date: 2006-09-22 09:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minipoppy.livejournal.com
I remember watching Batman the film a few years ago now, with my brother. When Bruce Wayne starts telling Kim Basinger how he is not like normal people, I expressed confusion, at which point my brother said 'on account of him being Batman'. I had no idea, I sulked at him for the whole rest of the film for that plot spoiler. Over time I have come to see that for most people Bruce=Batman was a given.
Next you are going to tell me that Peter Parker isn't just some chap who printed Paradise Lost

Date: 2006-09-22 11:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
Peter Parker published Paradise Lost? For God's sake, woman, restrain yourself from telling us these things! :)

Sorry, yes, that is a tricky one. I don't think it's ever supposed to be a secret about batman, so I wouldn't worry about telling people. But if I know someone particularly does care, I'd avoid it round them.

Date: 2006-09-22 11:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keithlard.livejournal.com
It is the same with books reely. I mean there are certain books that you have to assume most people in your culture are familiar with, if they haven't read them at least they know the basic idea. And some things are so famous (justly or unjustly) that everyone knows the top secret plot anyway, eg The Da Vinci Code.

Date: 2006-09-22 11:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
Yeah. I don't know what the *most* known secret is.

Jesus rises from the dead.
Dracula is a vampire -- no-one can even hear

Hmm, I should probably post about that...

OTOH, I knew a bit about what happened in Da Vine Code, but not the details of the plot. And maybe people I know deliberately avoid it, so maybe not as well known as it could be :)

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