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Attempt to create a second account on a website.

Goodness
^
| Direct you to the previous account, but give an "i meant it" button
| Direct you to the previous account, with an explanation
| Direct you to the previous account
| Simply let you do so
| Create an empty account making it impossible to log in to the first
v
Badness

By the way, CookiePie is another necessary idea for a Firefox extension. It can make one tab have a separate cookies, so you can have two accounts on the same site open at once.

In this case, the site's developers were even more cunning -- they detected an account logged in to/logged out of from the same computer, and logged out the first account at that time. Which is impressive attention to detail, eg. preventing you leaving lj logged in when you log out/someone else logs in in another browser is useful. But very irritating in that a feature naturally automatically exists is, with hard work, eliminated.

(If two accounts was a paid feature, or if 100 accounts could be used for spamming, I'd understand them preventing it, but there didn't seem any detriment to letting people use multiple accounts for different reasons or for experimentation.)

Date: 2007-10-02 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pseudomonas.livejournal.com
they detected an account logged in to/logged out of from the same computer

How can they tell another browser on the same computer from another browser on a different computer using the same IP address? I thought they weren't supposed to be able to get that much information.

Date: 2007-10-02 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geekette8.livejournal.com
Mmm, coooooookieeeeees :)

Date: 2007-10-02 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pseudomonas.livejournal.com
But cookies aren't typically shared between different browsers, are they?

Date: 2007-10-02 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geekette8.livejournal.com
Oh, not between, say, IE and Firefox, no. But I parsed "different browsers" as "different browser windows" rather than "different browser programs".

Date: 2007-10-03 11:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
I'm not sure, I decided I didn't want to know. It said something like "logged out in another browser window" which I thought, based on this, should refer to a different browser program, but actually might not. This was another tab with "magic separate cookies", so either:

* the magic separate cookies didn't work (though they did *something*)
* something-or-other told it it was the same browser
* something-or-other told it it was the same person/computer/
* it did base it on IP address and will indeed shaft people with gateways

It was Remember the Milk for what it's worth, generally seeming quite well designed. This could have been my imagination, I don't know for sure.

Date: 2007-10-03 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alextfish.livejournal.com
I would like something that enabled different Firefox windows/tabs to have separate cookies when I tell it to. But I wouldn't want that to be the default behaviour.

CookiePie looks like it'll do precisely this. But since they report problems with GMail (the principal thing I'd use it for) and Tab Mix Plus (the best FF tab-control extension and one of my top 3 FF extensions ever), I don't think I'll be using CookiePie just yet :-/

Also, I salute your post title.

Date: 2007-10-03 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
But I wouldn't want that to be the default behaviour.

That's what I meant. I didn't see the problems with it though; I just gave it a go and then gave up.

Also, I salute your post title.

:) Thank you.

I felt it had to be done. Though I felt a little guilty -- it really is a common problem that something done by design is a bug for someone :(

New cookiepie release available

Date: 2007-12-05 01:15 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Take a look at the new Cookiepie release at: cookiepie 1.0.0 (http://www.nektra.com/oss/firefox/extensions/cookiepie/) and enjoy!
It solves some of the issues with Gmail and is running fine on Yahoo, Hotmail and others.

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