Revenge in a suitably amusing voice
May. 23rd, 2005 12:57 pmIt was way cool. But otoh I always think that just after a starwars film, and only later decide what niggled me about it. Anyway, now a series of impressions, most things I objected to, though there were much fewer of these than in the other films.
Many light-sabre duels were very very cool. I did like general greivous with his four, indeed I liked him generally. On the other hand some of it seemed a bit tacked on, mostly because almost every time you know how it's going to end. I liked Dooku, it's a shame he was toast so quickly, and it seems a bit of a waste (couldn't Palpitane have found some other underling to be killed by Anikin?), but you know he was going to die. You know Obi Wan was going beat Grevious. You know Kingsley Shacklebolt was going to be toast one way or another. And at the end you know niether duel is going to won decisively, however impressive lava is. Knowing how things end *can* be great tragedy, but it didn't quite work here.
"I *am* the senate" -- nice reference to the sun king.
For god's sake, "Ani" is such a freacking sickening nickname.
When yoda and obi wan investigated the temple I was pleased that they looked at the security vids, I was terrified they were going to run to Anikin and say "OMG they is teh dead SOS," though I'm not sure why it showed them Vader kneeling to the emporer -- didn't that happen in his office?
The dialogue wasn't great, but there wasn't as much of it as the last film, and didn't really bother me.
When they lowered the mask on to Vader's face I nearly cried.
A few questions. Why didn't Obi and Yoda tackle Siddious together? Surely that'd give them a better chance? The clones did a decent job of eliminating the jedi, except for yoda, where two of them wandered up to teh greatest jedi ever and stood very close to him before raising their guns slowly surrounded by his wookie friends. Everyone makes a big deal of how important Vader is, but in New Hope wasn't governor someone holding him on a leash?
Update: And the science didn't make any sense. The science *never* makes any sense. It didn't cause any major plot holes[1] that I noticed, so I let it slide.
Except them not knowing about caesarean sections. But that's not a problem with the tech they have, but with what they don't have. Area-affect weapons would also be good things to use against jedi, but no doubt they have magic immunity to that.
Many light-sabre duels were very very cool. I did like general greivous with his four, indeed I liked him generally. On the other hand some of it seemed a bit tacked on, mostly because almost every time you know how it's going to end. I liked Dooku, it's a shame he was toast so quickly, and it seems a bit of a waste (couldn't Palpitane have found some other underling to be killed by Anikin?), but you know he was going to die. You know Obi Wan was going beat Grevious. You know Kingsley Shacklebolt was going to be toast one way or another. And at the end you know niether duel is going to won decisively, however impressive lava is. Knowing how things end *can* be great tragedy, but it didn't quite work here.
"I *am* the senate" -- nice reference to the sun king.
For god's sake, "Ani" is such a freacking sickening nickname.
When yoda and obi wan investigated the temple I was pleased that they looked at the security vids, I was terrified they were going to run to Anikin and say "OMG they is teh dead SOS," though I'm not sure why it showed them Vader kneeling to the emporer -- didn't that happen in his office?
The dialogue wasn't great, but there wasn't as much of it as the last film, and didn't really bother me.
When they lowered the mask on to Vader's face I nearly cried.
A few questions. Why didn't Obi and Yoda tackle Siddious together? Surely that'd give them a better chance? The clones did a decent job of eliminating the jedi, except for yoda, where two of them wandered up to teh greatest jedi ever and stood very close to him before raising their guns slowly surrounded by his wookie friends. Everyone makes a big deal of how important Vader is, but in New Hope wasn't governor someone holding him on a leash?
Update: And the science didn't make any sense. The science *never* makes any sense. It didn't cause any major plot holes[1] that I noticed, so I let it slide.
Except them not knowing about caesarean sections. But that's not a problem with the tech they have, but with what they don't have. Area-affect weapons would also be good things to use against jedi, but no doubt they have magic immunity to that.
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Date: 2005-05-24 11:56 am (UTC)Must figure out how do do that "quote in italics" thing.
Well, I generally do it the same way I do any <i>italics</i>, like that. Is that what you mean? Of course, when you reply to every paragraph it doesn't matter :)
the shot was of Anakin kneeling to him there
Fair enough.
I hope they took all the kneeling he's going to be doing into account when designing Vader's kneepads.
Oo-er.
If in doubt, apply "Standard Star Wars Plot Loop Hole Closer Number 1".
ROFL. But surely attacking a jedi at two points more than a light-sabre reach apart simultaneously should be a winning strategy? The aforementioned big fucking ass bomb would also do this admirably quite automatically. But I accept it's, like, fate that they do it the way they did.
Prophecies are generally a sure-fire loop hole closer. Jordon did quite well with his prophecies relating to the Andor royal family, but "You must foo without telling anyone or the Sith will win" is always possible provided they do foo and the sith don't.
The clones also killed the other Jedi on-planet first, meaning even if Yoda hadn't sensed all the other's, he was still forewarned.
Did they? I know that's the order they were shown in but I, probably over-optimistically, assumed they'd be as simultaneous as possible. And whether he's forwarned or not going and bending over him as stupid as the guy doing that in alien. Hey, I suddenly discovered what race yoda is! :)
He might be a Governor but I have a feeling he'd start developing breathing problems if he tried 'leashing' Vader.
I googled this a bit and it seems to be mainly an anomoly. Either the emporer told Vader to listen to Tarkin because Tarkin was slightly less batshit insane, if less compassionate in the end, or Vader was sent to look after Tarkin and make sure he didn't get carried away with this blowing up planets thing, the death star being the ultimatest big ass sith-killing bomb except perhaps the darkvoid device, which was in a different fandom.
By the way, you do realise it's all Mace's fault, right?
It's supposed to be Jar-Jar's fault. He didn't do anything, and he *so* didn't die horribly :( Neither did the orange guy :(
Besides, if Shacklebolt hadn't tried and failed to kill the emporer, um, maybe he'd have taken over anyway without Ani.