Captain Vorpatril's Alliance
Jan. 22nd, 2014 01:28 pmGood
I loved this book a lot, lot more when I reread it. I like seeing grown-up Ivan, but more than anything else, I liked seeing emotional interactions with Simon Illyan and Alys Vorpatril. I laughed a lot, and really cared about the fragile relationships being rebuilt. And I liked the varied viewpoints.
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There is a very short passage describing a trans man, Dono, from a previous book. Who was a very good character (despite some false starts, and being inconsistent with what we know about being trans in the real world).
It is from the point of view of one or two people who are not sympathetic, which is possibly realistic, but it's really awful that that's the only mention in the book, and it's not outweighed by any non-phobic description :(
Ugly
Like several recent books, the plot machinations are mostly a background to the characters, which is fine. But I'd rather the plot were dialled back to a smaller scale, rather than trying to squeeze in "oh, and $bigthing is in danger" into a sidenote somewhere.
The two problems I averred to in my previous post, are the necessity for Ivan and Tej to marry, and Simon's plan to give the Arquas more rope, rather than just ringing ImpSec and saying "Hey, you know how we want a presence in Jackson's Hole? If you offer these guys a big loan, they'll go and do it for you. PS. There's a bunch of money buried under impsec."
I think the intent of the plot is that those were necessary, and Ivan's and Simon's emotional biases toward marriage and meddling were a minor peccadillo, not "and then we nearly got lots of people killed because we didn't think things through". But I genuinely can't tell. Am I missing something?
I loved this book a lot, lot more when I reread it. I like seeing grown-up Ivan, but more than anything else, I liked seeing emotional interactions with Simon Illyan and Alys Vorpatril. I laughed a lot, and really cared about the fragile relationships being rebuilt. And I liked the varied viewpoints.
Bad
There is a very short passage describing a trans man, Dono, from a previous book. Who was a very good character (despite some false starts, and being inconsistent with what we know about being trans in the real world).
It is from the point of view of one or two people who are not sympathetic, which is possibly realistic, but it's really awful that that's the only mention in the book, and it's not outweighed by any non-phobic description :(
Ugly
Like several recent books, the plot machinations are mostly a background to the characters, which is fine. But I'd rather the plot were dialled back to a smaller scale, rather than trying to squeeze in "oh, and $bigthing is in danger" into a sidenote somewhere.
The two problems I averred to in my previous post, are the necessity for Ivan and Tej to marry, and Simon's plan to give the Arquas more rope, rather than just ringing ImpSec and saying "Hey, you know how we want a presence in Jackson's Hole? If you offer these guys a big loan, they'll go and do it for you. PS. There's a bunch of money buried under impsec."
I think the intent of the plot is that those were necessary, and Ivan's and Simon's emotional biases toward marriage and meddling were a minor peccadillo, not "and then we nearly got lots of people killed because we didn't think things through". But I genuinely can't tell. Am I missing something?
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Date: 2014-01-28 06:43 pm (UTC)And, hm. There does come a point where one has to ask "Well, Mr Author, why did you write about _that_" - I'm looking at you, John Ringo - but also I think a time when the tail of being nice can't be allowed to wag the narrative dog, where one can't say the author is being gratuitously offensive but simply that the story is one where unpleasant things happen to people.
... mind you, I have not read the book.
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Date: 2014-01-29 11:39 am (UTC)I think that's basically right.
But I think you could make the book a lot better without changing the plot.
I think there's an old-fashioned narrative of how gender-swapping would work, just based on people's automatic assumptions, which shows up in many books, for instance:
* There's no such thing as gender dysphoria, before or after.
* If you swap from gender A to gender B, you automatically remain heterosexual.
This contradicts current narratives by actual trans people, which is more like:
* People have an innate gender which we don't know how to change (whether it fits neatly into M or F or is something more complicated)
* We may be able to change people's bodies
* Matching the body to the gender is the most important reason to transition
* Your orientation doesn't have to obey any fixed rules, it can be whatever you like, it may remain the same afterwards, or change somewhat, or you may realise you had a more complicated orientation all along but didn't realise it until it became an issue.
And there's also the true biological facts, which are more similar to the current narrative, but there's probably more to discover.
Lots of books are written with the old assumptions just because that's what someone assumed and/or that was the cultural narrative at the time. A few books (depressingly few) are written with the new assumptions.
There is no evidence whatsoever that Bujold was aware of the new narrative at all. Everything she wrote about Dono is exactly what you'd expect from someone working from the old narrative, interested in exploring issues of M vs F on Barrayar, but unaware of trans issues.
That would not be at all surprising. I'm somewhat aware of trans issues, knowing a few trans people, but 10 years ago, the vast, vast, vast majority of people (including me) probably had no idea, even if they should have done.
As it happens, Dono doesn't explicitly contradict the new narrative. For instance, it's possible that the people who _need_ to transition for gender dysphoria do so quietly on Beta, get screwed over on Barrayar, and aren't mentioned, and it's possible that some people have weak self-body-images and would be perfectly happy to live with either sex, and Donna happened to be one of them.
However, it would have been completely easy to insert one or two lines, mentioning that fact, and that Dono was really unrepresentative of trans people. That would still be somewhat problematic, writing about a really unrepresentative member of a minority group, but at least it wouldn't strongly imply they *were* representative.
Since, if you thought of it, it would be so easy to do, the fact that Bujold didn't do that strongly suggests she didn't know it would be a problem. (Or was deliberately overruled by an editor, etc.)
That's not a horrible thing -- not every book can be progressive propaganda for every cause, it's not surprising an author wouldn't realise every possible community she might accidentally trample on, but it's a problem which I pointed out.
Likewise, it would be trivial to insert a line in CVA pointing out how Ivan is wrong about Dono. There, I think, Bujold knew that Ivan was wrong, but maybe didn't realise that there were real-world trans people who might be hurt by it.
And FWIW, I think Bujold _does_ do technology-vs-social-issues stuff very well, and does characters very sympathetically, so I think Dono is a positive character in many ways, simply by being a good character who happens to be trans. (I know some trans people who love him for that.) But it's also true that he's misleadingly unrepresentative of trans people (and I know some trans people who hate him for that).
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Date: 2014-02-05 03:36 pm (UTC)I do wonder where Barrayar is in general. Is Dono going to be the first out trans person?
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Date: 2014-02-08 03:06 pm (UTC)Thank you! Sorry if I ranted too long :)
"He was bisexual; now he's monogamous" is similarly an example of Bujold stuck in the "old narrative".
Exactly. In that case, I think the actual characterisation is fine, but she used the word "bisexual" incorrectly given current definitions, in a way offensive to most bisexuals. I think then she did include a quote in a later book showing she'd found out and embraced modern terminology.
(And that was pretty positive given Aral is a wonderful character, although there are some problems, eg. the gay relationships are the bad ones and the heterosexual relationships are the good ones, but that was hard to avoid for plot reasons.)
I do wonder where Barrayar is in general. Is Dono going to be the first out trans person?
It seems they're the first high-profile trans person, or someone would probably have drawn the comparison. Presumably there may have been some people where it wasn't secret, but wasn't advertised, or people who didn't fit into the modern narrative: eg. there's a mention of a woman who was declared a man for inheritance reasons but we don't know if she had person reasons for suggesting that, or it was purely pragmatic.