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My debit card has become cracked, and I phoned HSBC for a replacement. I was amazed -- I was sure they'd manage to introduce administrative faff somehow or other, probably by cancelling the old one immediately, but no, they took care of it immediately.

Though I suppose they won't be putting "I called with an extremely simple request and you said you weren't going to fuck it up" on their testimonials pages.

Date: 2007-07-25 11:03 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] simont
He said cracked, not hacked. I assumed he meant the physical card had developed a physical crack in it which would eventually cause it to fall into two pieces.

(He could conceivably have meant "cracked" in the sense of electronic crime, but surely in that case he would have wanted the old card cancelled immediately?)

Date: 2007-07-25 11:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
Yes. Oops; I thought "cracked" was more specific than "broken", the potential ambiguity didn't occur to me at all. (I don't tend use "crack" that way.)

Date: 2007-07-25 11:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robhu.livejournal.com
I encounter 'crack' in the computer sense much more than in the physical sense :P

Date: 2007-07-25 11:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
LOL. I guess that makes sense -- obviously there are a lot of cracked objects, but you don't often have to *say* so. FWIW, I was amused enough to make an informal summary of my (and friends) uses of "crack" by counting my email account.

There were 41 emails, representing two to three fewer crack events (since some were only quoting previous usages -- eg. notification emails for this).

Excluding commercial messages, I found the senses of broken, cocaine (metaphor for addictive), whip, craic (Irish word for fun or a night out), crypto, a loud noise, to go crazy, "have a crack at", "crack team", "butt crack", and "crack out the ..." all once. Cocaine (crazy stupid) twice. And to laugh hysterically four times.

In commercial messages (generally from arts picture house) there were: cocaine (literally), "crack out" and go crazy once; crack team and broken twice; and crypto thrice.

It was never used where "hack" could be :) (Though the crypto sense is obviously related.) I obviously hang out in the wrong circles :)

It's actually really interesting: I wouldn't have realised that there were so many, nor which were most common. It's like verb tenses -- you get taught present tense as a child, but then you never ever use it again, even though you think you do.

Date: 2007-07-25 02:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yrieithydd.livejournal.com
But wouldn't he have said `been cracked' not `become cracked' for that sense? (Or more likely hacked). I'd use cracked as it cracked the code, but not for hacking.

Date: 2007-07-25 02:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robhu.livejournal.com
I also misread it ;-)

(ack! everyone is pointing out that I'm wrong! stop it! ;-)

Date: 2007-07-25 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
FTR, I would, though I *might* have said "become cracked" for some reason or other.

But Rob, it was a perfectly reasonable reading, don't worry. If you know what the alternatives are, you could tell which, but of course you get stuck with the meaning you expected.

Date: 2007-07-25 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minipoppy.livejournal.com
OK, I don't actually know you so I shouldn't comment, but I love the way you always try and make everyone feel good and right in your replies to their comments. That is very sweet.

Date: 2007-07-26 11:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
Aw, thank you. I feel like I know *you* -- maybe your username is just very evocative :)

Of course I do -- I don't like feeling wrong or stupid, so I don't suppose anyone else does either. I would have said everyone else does the same, I'm just worse at it so its more obvious and patronising :)

OK, that's not quite fair -- sometimes it is, but I always try to be both positive and fair. But even assuming you have the right to evaluate what someone else said is a bit patronising.

I'm glad it is appreciated :)