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On the way back I went to Heffer's Arts. That was very nice, it had the feeling of coming home that other specialist shops and libraries often have.

Everything has little pads of paper you can try a pen on. I'm glad to see I wasn't just imagining that custom -- I remember buying a pen somewhere like Smiths once, and being looked at as if I was insane when I asked if I could see it write. Always or never doing so makes sense, but at least it wasn't only in my head.

It's also useful the other way round. I'm sure you remember my classic anecdote of looking for seating objects for the Veizla, going into a shop and saying:

Me: Hi! Excuse me, do you have about thirty, all about this big, each a different design?
Them: Have about thirty what?
Me: Yes, exactly.

Here it's a lot easier. Just, "Excuse me," point to a clef drawn on the pad, "I want one that draws like that."

In fact, many of the doodles were very nicely done, I feel out of place :)

In the end, I got a calligraphic marker, which I think does what I wanted, though I find something else would be more appropriate later. I considred brush pens, and they're definitely a superior product for drawing overall, but a little delicate and wet for my feeling right now. I almost looked for some colours too, but decided I didn't want to go overboard, I could barely draw proportions, I don't know if I want to venture into the murky waters of shading :)

Date: 2007-09-28 01:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
Ooh, you have an art icon. Where does that come from?

I wonder if you'd have fun with the funky felt tips Sebby uses?

Oh, maybe. Is that what he had at the Veizla? I remember starting drawing some sketches at some point in the evening, and later on started getting them back, enlarged, coloured in, and generally professional :) I've got my menu with his alien thing drawn on in my memorabilia folder somewhere, I should have a look.

Date: 2007-09-28 01:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atreic.livejournal.com
Sebby drew it with his funky pens ;-) Although it was inspired by one of RJKs Viezla pictures.

This one I drew all by myself :-)

I get the impression from chatting to Sebby that his pens are Not-Cheap, but make everything look nicer than you expect it to.

Date: 2007-09-28 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
They're both nice! I thought the first looked slightly familiar. Is it online large anywhere? It looks more nuanced than I thought the pens were (or than I could manage by myself :)).

I like the fox, too. It's simple but expressive -- it would fit really was an illustration for my "How the Kitten Became" or something, though that fox was beautiful, but more cunning than relaxed :)

Date: 2007-09-28 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
I get the impression from chatting to Sebby that his pens are Not-Cheap, but make everything look nicer than you expect it to.

:)

Could be. Theoretically that shouldn't make a difference to me -- either I get into it, and then it's worth it, or I don't, in which case it's a random one-off. But I'll start little and see if I get anywhere. I'm tempted to skip the party tonight, but I think I need the socialising, I can code and draw on sun.

Date: 2007-09-28 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atreic.livejournal.com
I wonder why I never use any of my "extra" icons usually?

Date: 2007-09-28 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
I don't know. I think normally people get a collection of really nice icons, but it's not clear exactly what they're appropriate for. It means they don't get used all the time, but it's really nice when you have a surprisingly appropriate icon appear somewhere :)