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Preamble on objectivity )

So, what are the standard arguments for being vegetarian, and do they apply to me?

1. ✗"It's healthy". It may or may not be true, but even if it were unhealthy I'd feel the same way.

2. "✗It's better for the enivronment". I'd LIKE this to be true. I'd also love it if coding PERL turned out to make me a hero saved lots of lives. But that doesn't mean it IS true. I'd be vegetarian either way (unless being vegetarian was much worse).

3. ✓ "It's part of my cultural identity". This is a big part of it. I spent 20 years being vegetarian, and it's part of who I am. Giving it up feels like giving up being English if I lived abroad -- sure, I could do if I wanted to, there's nothing inherently better about being English, but I don't want to, and I'd expect people to find it strange if I rejected it.

4. ✗"Because animals in the food (or dairy) industry suffer a lot." Often they do, often they don't. Again, it would feel very validating if this were true, and if it were true, I think it WOULD be a deal-breaker. But there is ethically grown meat and I don't want to eat that either. Indeed, I think I've been afraid to find out how bad the current industry is because I'm not sure how it would affect my opinions.

5. ✓ "Because killing things for pleasure is bad, mmkay." This is the reason I always quote. If there were vat meat, it would feel strange, but I'd eat that. Even though if I ate meat for long, I'd quickly get used to it, and though I'm not yet saying I'm RIGHT to believe this, this is definitely the real reason (along with #3) that I actually am.

6. ✗ "Because eating dead flesh is wrong/icky, mmlkay." This is definitely related. After not having done so I'd probably feel queasy morally and literally to eat something dead, even if it had died painlessly and accidentally. But I don't think I actually have a moral objection to it.

7. ✗ "Because it lets me feel superior." There's probably a little truth here. Even if they weren't true, I wouldn't adhere as closely to the habit if it didn't have trappings of morals and health. It's a reason I'm slow to reconsider my opinion, but if vegetarianism definitely had no benefits, I would reluctantly abandon it.

8. ✓ "Because I'm stubborn". This isn't a reason to be vegetarian forever, but it does mean I don't want to simply eat meat because it happens to be there, without actually deciding I have a good reason to.

False arguments against being vegetarian )

Krishna

Feb. 15th, 2007 01:26 pm
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I met up with some vegetarians, who were nice. I don't define myself by vegetarianism, but it's more central to who am than having red hair would be.

But as well as being full of vegetarians it is full of Hare Krishnas. It is very strange -- though quite refreshing, it's nice for once *not* to think about it -- to not be the only vegetarian in a room full of people who agree with your philosophical believes, but vice versa.

But while most people were just nice, a minority were, well, offputtingly evangelical. I want to -- and effectively did -- say "Thank you for the food, and the book, and the friendship. But interesting or not, I won't take anything I feel puts me at an obligation to take you seriously, I'm sorry."

And "Be aware I've met CICCU's best, you may choose not to waste your time with me."

And "You're striving. You're not supposed to strive. Be happy, it's a much more effective advertisement."

As I said to mum, don't worry, I'm not going to be brainwashed. I've been preemtively debrainwashed very well, as curious as I am about, well, lots of things, skepticism is still my rock, and I'm incapable to believing anything contrary, even when I try :)

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